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by Janitroll
Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:11 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds
Replies: 94
Views: 42899

Re: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds

Ornge pay higher than Jazz, Encore & Porter Q Step 1 first officer, $ 75,499.00 Step 2 first officer, $ 92,050.37 Upgrade to captain $ 120,000 to $ 153,000 No training bond + benefits https://www.ornge.ca/Media/Ornge/Documents/Campaign%20Documents/Fly%20With%20Us/FW-FIRST-OFFICER-Pay-Benefits-Fact-S...
by Janitroll
Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:16 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Central Mountain Air, Perimeter, Sunwest and others posting job ads paying $15,000-$25,000 less than competition
Replies: 17
Views: 4772

Re: Central Mountain Air, Perimeter, Sunwest and others posting job ads paying $15,000-$25,000 less than competition

$42845.00/yr - $5600 tax - $36000 / year rent ? Does anyone out there have any up to date information on FO pay at CMA? As of December 2019 Dash level 3 FO is $42845.00/yr and 24month $20500.00 training bond Don’t know what level one would be but definitely lower which is pretty awful. As far as the...
by Janitroll
Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:14 am
Forum: Employment Forum
Topic: Central Mountain Air FO Pay
Replies: 40
Views: 15764

Re: Central Mountain Air FO Pay

$42845.00/yr - $5600 tax - $36000 / year rent ? Does anyone out there have any up to date information on FO pay at CMA? As of December 2019 Dash level 3 FO is $42845.00/yr and 24month $20500.00 training bond Don’t know what level one would be but definitely lower which is pretty awful. As far as the...
by Janitroll
Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:37 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Central Mountain Air, Perimeter, Sunwest and others posting job ads paying $15,000-$25,000 less than competition
Replies: 17
Views: 4772

Central Mountain Air, Perimeter, Sunwest and others posting job ads paying $15,000-$25,000 less than competition

Airlines asking for 1000 hours minimum time, pilots are going to Jazz, Encore, Porter with 750 to 1000 hours & starting $15,000 to $25,000 higher than your pay and without training bonds Is your company trying to attract experienced pilots? Or are your job ad hiring minimums false? We are currently ...
by Janitroll
Thu May 23, 2024 2:59 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Agreement in principle reached.
Replies: 167
Views: 58285

Re: Agreement in principle reached.

Maybe it's a bluff. Now, if the pilots decide that they don't like this Tentative Agreement and vote it down, that's completely in their right. And they have then had an opportunity to make their voices known. If it's a bluff by the company, awesome, hopefully after some more negotiations Encore ca...
by Janitroll
Thu May 23, 2024 2:45 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Will WJ pilots pick up overtime and Encore routes during an Encore strike?
Replies: 12
Views: 2946

Re: Will WJ pilots pick up overtime and Encore routes during an Encore strike?

First, who says there's going to be a strike? It's not even on the horizon. There's going to be an evaluation of the failure, a re-negotiation, and then, maybe, another strike vote. If the Encore pilots accepted the TA, would their still be a second strike vote There's one strike vote & it's 97% fa...
by Janitroll
Thu May 23, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: For Encore pilots - What are your TA Suggestions?
Replies: 14
Views: 2994

Re: For Encore pilots - What are your TA Suggestions?

No offense but like someone said, you want to compare Encore with United? ALPA & most pilots want work conditions to match. Same airspace, airports & passengers No difference needed between scheduling & work conditions at Encore & United 2010s US regionals had worse conditions than Canada, the US p...
by Janitroll
Thu May 23, 2024 2:28 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Encore TA compared to Perimeter - Less pay & credit
Replies: 15
Views: 2647

Encore TA compared to Perimeter - Less pay & credit

Perimeter Agreement Dash100, half seats of Q400 Min daily 4.3 hours & 1:4 Trip rig T he Minimum Daily Credit (MDC) of four point three (4.3) Credit Hours per Calendar Day that contains a Flight Duty Period, a Reserve Duty Period (RDP) or any other Duty Period unless specified otherwise within this A...
by Janitroll
Sat May 18, 2024 1:52 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: For Encore pilots - What are your TA Suggestions?
Replies: 14
Views: 2994

Re: For Encore pilots - What are your TA Suggestions?

JBI wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:28 am

If you got everything you wanted but not "150% deadhead pay for middle seats" would you still remain off of work?


Removing middle seat deadheads simple for company to do and include in agreement
by Janitroll
Sat May 18, 2024 1:39 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: For Encore pilots - What are your TA Suggestions?
Replies: 14
Views: 2994

Re: For Encore pilots - What are your TA Suggestions?

I'm sorry are you actually thinking that anyone will take you serious by comparing United work rules to Encore. Unaugmented long duty day Add Pay: 1:1 for every minute on duty over 10 hours – as done at United 1 to 1 over 10 would discourage long duty All pilots should want this If its used at unit...
by Janitroll
Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:45 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Agreement in principle reached.
Replies: 167
Views: 58285

Re: Agreement in principle reached.

Bede wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:16 pm And replaced with whom?
Can you explain the WJ headset reimbursement issue?

Is WJ required to pay full headset costs due to new government laws, & WJ not paying?
by Janitroll
Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Agreement in principle reached.
Replies: 167
Views: 58285

Re: Agreement in principle reached.

Have encore pilots seen the Air Canada plan posted http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=206901 This TA's similar to what was being discussed in the meter reader post http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?p=1239838#p1239838 This Wasaya ATR scale was posted. Would encore pilots accept...
by Janitroll
Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:13 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Agreement in principle reached.
Replies: 167
Views: 58285

Re: Agreement in principle reached.

Will Encore pilots send their MEC back to bargain? Montreal Airbus workers are asking their MEC to go back third round. Encore pilots can support their MEC to go back Voting against the TA isn't against MEC Does the MEC know this? Airbus workers at Quebec plant reject company's third contract offer ...
by Janitroll
Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:07 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Encore pilots - Airbus workers at Quebec plant reject company's third contract offer
Replies: 1
Views: 1120

Encore pilots - Airbus workers at Quebec plant reject company's third contract offer

Will Encore pilots send their MEC back to bargain? Montreal Airbus workers are asking their MEC to go back third round. Encore pilots can support their MEC to go back Airbus workers at Quebec plant reject company's third contract offer MONTREAL — Unionized workers at an Airbus assembly plant north o...
by Janitroll
Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:47 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: List of lower end of bond & training agreement amounts
Replies: 19
Views: 3867

Re: List of lower end of bond & training agreement amounts

What is this list? Hopes and dreams? What bonds should be in a just and fair world? Most of the EIC companies have bonds on their planes, most King Air operators bond their employees as well. Ornge – pc12 - no bond Mag – 172, 337, DA42, aerocommander, king air – no bond, instead they have a bonus M...
by Janitroll
Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:38 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds
Replies: 94
Views: 42899

Re: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds

:!: 5. The frank purpose of training bonds is coercion against employment mobility. Pilots subject to training bonds escape forfeiture only where they remain employed for a minimum period of time, often years. In effect, they create a form of indentured service. Indentured service & worse working co...
by Janitroll
Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:36 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds
Replies: 94
Views: 42899

Re: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds

ALPA once wrote, yet in recent years ALPA national signs CBA allowing training bonds Inuit & Keewatin negotiating - will ALPA continue to sign off CBA with bonds like 2023? October 31, 2005 Submission to the Federal Labour Standards Review Commission by the Air Line Pilots Association, International...
by Janitroll
Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds
Replies: 94
Views: 42899

Re: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds

Will ALPA be supporting bonds at Pivot Air?
by Janitroll
Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:16 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: List of lower end of bond & training agreement amounts
Replies: 19
Views: 3867

Re: List of lower end of bond & training agreement amounts

King air bonds specifically for the 200 the norm is 10-15k up to 25k depending If you go to sim. The metro bond info is also erroneous see Carson and Perimeter are much more then that. Doesn’t perimeter have a sim? If the bond's to reflect training, and running the sim with instructor costs $200/ho...
by Janitroll
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:47 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: ACA starting position
Replies: 45
Views: 25901

Re: ACA starting position

I hope you put all this info in your survey. The union is more than aware and the comparators have already been put in the negotiating committee's hands. Don't rely on the union or they read this site It takes many pilots notifying the MEC of what to settle for If you want these conditions then ema...
by Janitroll
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:37 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds
Replies: 94
Views: 42899

Re: ALPA signing new agreements with training bonds

Prime +2%? So I’m getting a 9.2% return? How many type ratings can I apply for at Wasaya? Prime +2 may not look so good if you realize, it means you have to work there for 2 years. Pretty sure the caravan / pc12 is only one year. For near 10% return on my money, id choose option 1 versus option 3 i...
by Janitroll
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:24 am
Forum: Perimeter Aviation / Bearskin Airlines
Topic: Should I apply?
Replies: 22
Views: 11545

Re: Should I apply?

Can anyone shed some light on the training side of things as FO on the Metro, what is the PPC like and how much of a success rate etc? Maybe someone can post the current contract, it’s union so the cba’s public Bond 1 year $6,000 for perimeter FO, prorated – better than others $15,000 B1900 bond at...
by Janitroll
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: List of lower end of bond & training agreement amounts
Replies: 19
Views: 3867

List of lower end of bond & training agreement amounts

List of lower end of bond & training agreement amounts in Canadian dollars Cessna 206 or smaller – no bond Cessna 337 - no bond floats - no bond fire- no bond Cessna 208 Caravan – no bond Morningstar PC-12 – fo no bond most companies, captain bond some companies, no captain bond @ Ornge Aero command...
by Janitroll
Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: Employment Forum
Topic: Newbie Pilot just received upfront training bond offer
Replies: 22
Views: 8767

Re: Newbie Pilot just received upfront training bond offer

Can someone explain why the Dash8 bond at ALPA Wasaya $15k, the Dash8 bond at ALPA PAL $26k and the similar type ATR72 bond at ALPA Calm Air $12k?

Three different bonds for similar training, all at ALPA.

What about the $31k bond for at Pacific Coastal, with 1/2 the passengers of the DashATR?

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