Question is how many guys at AC would trade pay for QOL? Can't underestimate the grip of money... it takes hold of everyone, and then it's never enough. You could predict perpetually trading away every last lifestyle aspect for a few extra bucks. Happens in every group in every industry. It's fasci...

Insult insult blah blah blah insult insult toss more shit. What is your defect dude? Did nobody love you as a child? The fact is there is a monthly MBG that is variable based on DBM for both block holders and reserve pilots. I detailed it earlier which you ignored. I provided the relevant article r...

Air Canada pilots don't have a monthly guarantee.... Oh I guess the flat payers get it. We give the worst new hire pay in the industry a 75 hrs guarantee. Sounds so very Air Canada like... Just another one of those "we will get'em next time"...."just need xyz airline to get because we need to pAtTeR...

Monthly MBG at Air Canada is DBM dependent and between 60 and 72 hours for block holders, between 68 and 82 hours for reserve pilots. First two pay steps FO/RP are guaranteed higher of above or 75 hours. Depending on fleet, pilots are also guaranteed overseas and nav pay. 71 hours on WBs, 10 hours ...

In practice that's not how it works. Like 3rdworldclasspilot said it is not a monthly guarantee. You are correct that's it's a 900hr annual guarantee. However, it gets paid out as a single lump sum "top up" basically whenever the company feels like it. This past year it was several months delayed f...

What planet are you living on? The starting pay is basically the same as AC... or what... just a couple thousand more. And other posters here have said that take home is several % points less than AC. I dont know the exact figures on that, but it seems like the starting pay will fall short of AC if...

Im eagerly awaiting road shows. Leaning on a Yes because there is some good stuff here. Pay could be better but at least starting pay isn't as bad as Air Canada. Definitely happy I've decided to stick it out compared to what the Air Canada pilots were able to negotiate. Must be terrible with those ...

My Transat friends, whatever you do, please do not settle for a "vendor-dependant" contract. Not sure what a “vendor dependant” contract means. I too hope for a successful outcome for the TS pilots, but I don’t see a whole lot of leverage . TRZ is not a financially healthy enterprise. Cash flow pro...

A broke ass Leisure carrier securing major gains over a Legacy Carrier.

That is embarrassing.

Ouch

Its hilarious to see all the AC dissident posters pile in here to give their "expert" advice on late stage bargaining. Like they have a clue. Transat pilots will do whats best for them given the circumstances at hand. And those circumstances by the way, are entirely different from those faced by AC...

99.9% chance they capitulate with that 99% strike vote

ALPA hasn't strike in how long? Honest question...30 years?? And how many contracts since then.

Same old tired playbook. Yawn.

I dont think anyone is going to disagree AC pilots can't negotiate jack sheet. A 10 yrs deal to 4 years tragic flat pay then somehow a World Class Contract meant pissing away a bonus with world worst reserve and productivity... And can't even implement their comical work rules gains. It's insane rea...

As I said earlier the 17 year deal has been debated ad nauseum. Bringing it up here again is pointless. What is problematic is when you say that “if the company wants to run the operation into the ground that’s on them”. There are almost 300 pilots at Jazz currently enrolled and contributing to a d...

So, if my memory is correct, you are currently an instructor who knows someone in the “sandbox”? Why are you trying to convince AC pilots it’s a great place, I don’t get it! Are you wanting more competition for the jobs over there or trying to get them to go so there is more openings at AC for you?...

While it was great to see some pilots picketing in Toronto, this isn't a strike. It's the same old ALPA playbook where pilots stand around with signs before they sign something in the final moments....Not hard for any management team to figure out the game plan after doing the exact same thing over...

DOH for Jazz pilots...LOL

When is Claude's reign finally going to come to an end? Aren't you guys embarrassed enough yet?

They want a 3rd World Class Contract obviously

Stop drinking Starbucks and one day you can own a house like me. LOL

Oh @#$! there are some real dummies among the ranks.

From a recent ALPA email: With 18 new hires joining our ranks in this class, our pilot group now stands over 5800 pilots strong. We expect another 32 pilots to join us at Air Canada before the end of the year. Speculating there will be layoffs going into the new contract and sudden retirements of s...

In all honesty, shouldn't Air Canada be able to whoop Delta with their vastly cheaper costs on pilots & labour? Aren't Air Canada pilots the cheapest North American legacy pilots there is?? Shouldn't the company be able to take advantage of this and just be able to out price Delta and their much su...

2% is wrong. My bad

2024 rates

First Officer Year 1:

AC: $87.48
WJ: $84.26
Percentage - 2.75%

First Officer Year 3:
AC: $118.47
WJ: $116.66
Percentage: 1.54%

So in some cases LESS THAN 2%

WestJet +2% That's what we got. Still bad productivity, bad reserve, no bonus. Fanboy Blade. I think you're really going to be disappointed if you think a bunch of defensive Yes Voting MEC members are going to rally the troops for more. Especially after looking like weaklings after the FA Strike. Li...

Pretty easy to see why ALPA is flush with cash :lol: They got a strike fund which they treat like a mutual fund. 25 years without a strike and counting. 2% (oh sorry 1.85% my bad) on a lot of pilots is going to make you flush with cash And for the record, so was ACPA. One of the reasons the loyalist...

Maybe we can strike in 2027 to get that 90 hrs guarantee up I guess the 'survey data' said that getting reps more money than the rest of us was a high priority? Jesus. They do alot of work, and were given less credit than our US counterparts. So which is it, do we want US pay or not? ohhh its the l...

I bet 99.9% of members don't even browse this thread which makes your depressing existence on here an insignificant rounding error in the real world. Bro, Pilot Assistance is available 24/7. And dude...this thread has 67,000 views. That's a lot of people witnessing the break down of a Yes voting ME...