AllthatJazz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 30, 2026 11:32 am ALPA Reps probably too busy OT whoring to notice what's going on.

#1 VO pilot for the entire airline is the YVR FO Rep. This place is worse than Jazz!

That looks really bad on ALPA. Not supposed to be this way at all. AC Pilots need better reps.

Just a reminder that in the year 2026, a brand-new FO at a Canadian ULCC can look at a legacy carrier pay table and say: "Wait... I make MORE than that guy?" 🤔 Somewhere, a freshly minted Flair pilot is explaining to an Air Canada pilot how pay progression works. What a time to be alive. Serious qu...

Heard they are in Conciliation and looking for WJ 737 rates.

Anyone know how it is going? Be great to see them beat us for some true pattern bargaining without concessions like the Air Canada negots team.

With so many latest greatest hits like: - a lack of implementation - hopeless & confusing scheduling rules - bullying potentially anyone new to the negots mafia - going in with the same exact union team as last round - watching the heavy weights of Air North & Air Transat achieve more impressive ne...

Holy Fock. Get off their thread already... I was simply pointing out that there is in fact a DBM, not saying it couldn't be better, for these guys to have an accurate comparison. Go work on your comprehension. No you weren't. I spelled it out for you 10 posts ago and you continued being a dense twa...

Monthly MBG at Air Canada is DBM dependent and between 60 and 72 hours for block holders, between 68 and 82 hours for reserve pilots. First two pay steps FO/RP are guaranteed higher of above or 75 hours. Depending on fleet, pilots are also guaranteed overseas and nav pay. 71 hours on WBs, 10 hours ...

Just chatting with a couple friends on the WJ MEC, and wow… the reputation of the Jazz MEC leadership, especially Claude, is absolutely in the gutter across ALPA. So genuinely, where is the recall at? How long does this circus keep going? As someone who flew at Jazz in a previous life, it is honestl...

Sure, it's a fact, pre tax like you said, so who gives a shit... It's very simple, what do I take home, and what is my cost of living. Black and white, EK wins, and that you can't deny. Pretty much everywhere else wins when it comes to taxes for wage earners in this country... it's brutal. There ar...

In all honesty, shouldn't Air Canada be able to whoop Delta with their vastly cheaper costs on pilots & labour? Aren't Air Canada pilots the cheapest North American legacy pilots there is?? Shouldn't the company be able to take advantage of this and just be able to out price Delta and their much sup...

How can you call yourself “results-based” and brag about WestJet +2%? Then it’s “be ready to fight” — but in the same breath you say AC pilots should pattern bargain off ULCCs… which actually have higher starting pay. So not only was there no fight, the union didn’t even pattern bargain for entry-le...

US ALPA got its gains from the luxury of pattern bargaining, backed by a clear pilot supply crunch... and they patterned off real legacy carriers, not low-cost start-ups or brand-new contracts. Air Canada pilots trying to pattern bargain off WestJet’s second contract or a financially shaky Air Trans...

altiplano wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:07 pm

FelixGustof wrote: ↑Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:55 pm Lol...so Air Canada pilots took concessions like losing their bonus while the FAs didn't?

Hahaha

No. AC pilots converted corporate performance based variable incentives into guaranteed money.

Lol...

So you cant have both...

Like every other legacy carrier.

LOL

Imagine coming on here as some old crusty pilot who was apart of the greatest erosion this profession has ever seen and then start trying to blame flight attendants after they actually took a stand against the company.

Imagine.

It's just sad seeing pilots who have benefited from mandatory retirement in this industry now try to take advantage of what is essentially a loop hole. This is a seniority based industry. There is no fountain of youth. You get on the carousel and enjoy the ride knowing full well there will be an en...

It's just sad seeing pilots who have benefited from mandatory retirement in this industry now try to take advantage of what is essentially a loop hole. This is a seniority based industry. There is no fountain of youth. You get on the carousel and enjoy the ride knowing full well there will be an end...

My understanding of vacation.

WJ is credited a week as 5 days so credit value of week equals 5 times 4.5 hrs equals 22:30 of pay

AC is 7 times 3:45 so equals 26:15 of pay

So AC nearly 4 hrs more pay per week...

WJ definitely not better...

Just want to point out that your and most credit systems are based on flight time and duty time, for example your easy YYC-YEG-YYC pairing for 1.5 flight time has a duty time of at best around 5 hours assuming a quick turn. You are at work for around 120 hours on a 80 credit month, I use the simple...

Not sure what the kind of financial situation the average Westjet FO/ recent hire is in with such low pay to fly a 737 or even 787 Last year as a WJ 737 FO with 2.5 years of Service ($91/hr half the year, and then $116/hr the other half) my T4 said 170k. This year will be 200k+ Yes I did lots of OT...

All you shills supporting training bonds shouldn't even be allowed to be represented by a union. You are a detriment to the profession. Pilots literally would be better off if you weren't involved in this line of work. Think about that for a sec. You're actual existence in a cockpit is a liability t...

Here's the relationships: Corporation: Will extract as much from you for as little as possible. Watch out for pilot shills who buy into this. Not to be trusted. Union: Fight for collective agreements that allow members to work as little as possible for as much as possible. Be wary of saviors who say...

A MEC Chair on a 14 years tenure with a 20 years contract with a flow that wasn't even followed... With a paid Lincoln SUV, fully stocked bar & kitchen, hundreds of thousands in expenses... With how many paid trips to Hawaii? And here we with people defending this garbage. Jazz...be better... And AL...

Yikes.. whoever you are ProtonPilot...you are one stupid @#$!

737Drver wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 4:28 pm Can someone name:

1) any other major airline that flies regional jets

NONE

2) a labour group that signs a 17 years deal

Just Jazz pilots

Additional question:

3) can someone name a time when career regional pilots were given DOH seniority at a major airline.

Can someone name:

1) any other major airline that flies regional jets

2) a labour group that signs a 17 years deal

Wow!

Exciting times for Jazz pilots.

Straight from Q400 Captain to B777 Skipper. I knew I should have gone to Jazz