At least if guys like this can't negotiate an industry leading contract that gets beat by broke ass leisure carriers, cant implement what they negotiated anyways, and then turn around & take their Rep $$$ gains to milk the membership with VO, then the least we can get is some union dues back. Becaus...

Just a reminder that in the year 2026, a brand-new FO at a Canadian ULCC can look at a legacy carrier pay table and say: "Wait... I make MORE than that guy?" 🤔 Somewhere, a freshly minted Flair pilot is explaining to an Air Canada pilot how pay progression works. What a time to be alive. Serious que...

beingcanadian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 8:01 pm

Bede wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 6:31 pm

Dronepiper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 18, 2026 3:23 pm What is in the new TA??

16% pay increase

16% over 3 years?

They have higher starting and top end 737 pay than Air Canada pilots now. I guess they always had better starting pay

Oxi wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2026 11:26 pm

Dry Guy wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 6:18 pm

Daniel Cooper wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 4:09 pm

Again with the alcohol. $2000 a month is quite the party.

Exactly how much of my paycheque is going towards mean-drunk bullying away the one guy that could probably turn this ship around?

AW cant handle it

I think you mean he can't handle the parties, booze, steaks and thuggery.

Not the same group. New MEC executive. 1/2 the NC turned over. Many new status reps. I think about 1/2 or 2/3 of them. This is factually incorrect. MEC Executive comprises of members that were all part of the last world class deal. It was just a game of musical chairs. I assume because they wanted ...

I love this ACPA post above. Before Transat's TA, it was "Transat doesn't have much leverage because they are financial wet noodles". Now after, it is because they couldn't afford a strike, they got more than Air Canada pilots. Lets face it. Some of these ACPA types are true world class rationalizer...

You do understand EBITDAR (not EBITDA) is what matters and for the last 2 years it was met under the old benchmark (negotiated by ACPA no less). Moving the **EBITDAR** targets was a massive concession and a smart move by the company that has now saved them well over $150 million already and counting...

Flyboy736 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 27, 2026 6:17 pm The 737 higher weight was based off the max 9.

Bro...Just Google the weight of the Max 9 and check what the contract says...those numbers are not the same...

Who told you this?!

Now that it has been established that profit sharing was traded away under the banner of “pattern bargaining,” it is worth clarifying what pattern bargaining actually means. Pattern bargaining is when one bargaining unit uses the gains achieved by another comparable group as the benchmark or floor i...

Good to have this discussion but shocking we have to do this... Quick explainer on EBITDA vs. EBITDAR for airlines: **EBITDA** = Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation & amortization. **EBITDAR** = EBITDA **plus Rent** (aircraft operating leases). For airlines, that “R” matters. Example: Let’...

The ALPA incentive bonus would have been maxed out the last two years. The trigger is 16.5% EBITDAR, not EBITDA. Those are not interchangeable metrics, and the company cleared that threshold comfortably. That's easily $30k per pilot of concessions. I think you're making stuff up. The difference bet...

What we’re seeing here is either a serious misunderstanding of the numbers -> or a deliberate misrepresentation of them. The ALPA incentive bonus would have been maxed out the last two years. The trigger is 16.5% EBITDAR, not EBITDA. Those are not interchangeable metrics, and the company cleared tha...

Dang...who runs the union? Same group who choked last round?