Here's why I, at least, don't consider pilots to be "professional". Hear me out. Our freshly admitted "member" in good standing to the "College", goes to his interview with Wasaya/Bearskin/whoever, and informs the interviewers that he is indeed, a member of the "College" of pilots. The interviewer ...

So do truckers need a college of...truckers? If you can't find a job, cry about it. If you pick a dink to work for you...remember that for next time. College of plumbers? And who gets into this college? The Seneca/Sault chaps? Just because you are book smart and can pass a CPL flight test, doesn't ...

We are off topic. I joined the college and think all should do do. It's long overdue. Well, I wont be "joining the college" because I'm NOT a sheep. Obviously though, you are. Let's hope that decision does not make you a lemming - in particular, the leader heading towards the cliff. Thank goodness ...

IFR, in the examples I know of, all the long term employees were happy and did not want the Union. It was the new employees, less than 5 years, that managed to bring it in. They were hoping for better pay and so on. What these kids did not understand was that they were already paid above industry s...

You might try reading the West Wind threads from the last six months or so. This might give you an indication of the stamina required by those trying to make some improvement for the pilots, the pros and cons stated by supporters and the naysayers along the way, and all the fallout in between. Howev...

This is without question the plight of the "whistleblower", large or small. This is just one of a myriad of examples of what needs protection as SMS is ultimately adopted into all sectors of aviation. To be sure Roper, I will be thinking about this while I am here in Ottawa, and I'm sure, when I am...

Heard a rumour ... has one of those terminated pilots been terminated again after being reinstated??? Widow, your quote, "They must find it difficult ....Those who have taken authority as the truth rather than truth as the authority" - (Gerald Massey ) certainly holds true here. It is my understand...

Thoughts? I think the topic of WW pilots and the union has been beaten to death, then dug up and beaten some more. Enough already, it is old news. I also think it is the beginning of the end of WW. Time will tell I guess. I guess you have the option to pass over the thread. However, there are a lot...

Cat Driver. These guys seem to have almost as much chutszpah as you. Thought that you'd be one of the first to support and respect that kind of backbone instead of joining a group that is trying to kick some dirt out from under them. Please don't tell me I was wrong. I don't have the time to go back...

What happened to all the posts by that pgbulldog character? I would think that he either changed his opinion, or he found out he wasn't allowed to express it as much as he thought he could. Much as I disagreed with most of his opinions, if he was 'asked' to stop and/or felt he better for his own jo...

Inter- personnel skills difficulties. Bureaucratic speak for not being a dick licker. Yep. The men in the pilot group need to just use one of the two b@lls they were given and do what's right for their profession and help to improve conditions for everyone. As for the women, they likely realized lo...

Marauder, Samaritan, et al : Actually, I'm not fan of unions also...and I am a pilot. It is my position that they suck money out of you for their own political welfare, under the guise of "assisting" pilots better their conditions. They tell you to go on strike, rather than continue to negotiate in...

Anyway my point wasn't whether or not what happened was justified or not. I think what happened was wrong. My point is that I don't think a union is going to fix things and they need to think long and hard about the long term ramifications of bringing in a union and how it will effect the other dep...

This is such an ongoing theme on these forums. Endless bitching and complaining, but hardly anybody seems willing to take the time and effort to make a change. Is it fear? Apathy? Or is it just that nobody wants to disrupt the status quo? One person all on their own will have zero impact on changin...

quote="pgbulldog"] I know a lot of pilots who work in crappy conditions and operators that push pilots to be unsafe, West Wind is not one of them. quote]


And you know this how??

By the way, I had heard their CP quit in the fall. Who is doing that job now?

Let me see if I got this straight. Only 38% of voters wanted this religious crackpot to be prime minister. Only 50 % of eligible voters actually voted. That means that only 19 percent of eligible voters voted for this Alberta dipshit to continue his George Bush imitation up here. Using your math, t...

Have things been improving here? Is there truth that management insisted on being in on the pilots' 'association' meeting? Doesn't sound too good. Obviously those who are so busy looking after their own backs and can not back the pilots who were let go - while working to help improve conditions for ...

How is mtce making out at this company? Any one know if they are having the same kind of issues?

Out of curiosity, I was wondering if this is the first time that pilots at this company were let go for little or no reason. - except perhaps trying to improve work conditions. Going back over the last decade or so, perhaps there are those 'out there' that know - either secondhand or, unfortunately,...

Found on the West Wind Aviation Website: Awards West Wind is well recognized by our customers, peers and regulators for our reliability, quality, on-time performance, safety and commitment to service. West Wind Aviation - proud recipient of: 2008 - Awarded ABEX Business Leader of the Year 2008 - Ca...

I think better that than trying to cut them off! How true, but if one of my co-workers was holding my balls it would have to be a woman. :smt040 I wouldn't be surprised if they were more supportive of the changes just by virtue of the fact of some of the biased perceptions about being a female in a...

Interesting reading throughout the thread. One thing that seems to be primarily consistent is the on-line support that the pilots seem to be receiving from apparently quite experienced pilots. Lots likely from former co-workers who have had the experience of working with one or more of them and who ...

quote="Trippin @350"]where is the HR department in all of this? SaskStyle you are right on with your assessment that the CP quitting means that he never had control of his department and this firing is a directive from above him. [/u] ________________________________________________________________...

May we never forget those that fought to give us the freedoms we enjoy to this day. It's almost impossible to imagine what many went through during war time - past and present included.

With a little research, it seems that the Abex Business Leader Award went to an individual of this company. Quite frankly, if that were the case, I would think that everyone would still be happily working there. Long term employees that have been promoted within the ranks over their time there, do n...