Localizer wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 12:02 pm Those things should have been retired years ago .. the Snowbird name can live on in a new jet. That's not it. That's not it? ... That's all you got? ... I can except "That's not it" had it been followed with an intelligent reason. I'm not saying this acci...

I heard on a different forum that he ended up on someone's roof. Shaken but OK.

Localizer wrote: ↑Sun May 17, 2020 1:02 pm Those things should have been retired years ago .. the Snowbird name can live on in a new jet.

That's not it.

The letters quoted in this discussion are very well written and pose well thought out arguments. The problem is that the argument against a pilot group joining ALPA are appealing to the selfish and shortsightedness that exists in all of us. We all have selfish, shortsighted tendencies and will often...

What it should have been in the first place came and went a LONG time ago...

Confusedalot... it sounds like you are "cleaning out your closet" as you transition to a life of retirement. Nothing like a good purge to move on to more positive pasture. I assume you have never been on a hiring board. Qualifications do not necessarily make a good pilot, as you have off-handedly po...

What's happening? It's called a pilot shortage. Been coming for 30 years...

Voting against a contract or even going on strike can go either way. There are a couple of cases in point that demonstrate the risk. A decision has to be made on what to protect and what to sacrifice when negotiating in a declining market.

Dropped the ball? I don't think so. The only way for pilots to truly take control of their collective future is to become a federally certified profession with the authority to set standards of pay and working conditions across all of the industry. That is not the mandate or the will of ALPA. We may...

For the record, ALPA has not given or taken away anything from anybody. ALPA provides a legal, certified bargaining platform for the pilots at an airline to represent themselves with the support of significant resources far beyond what would be otherwise available. We support each other in times of ...

BE20 driver; equating major airlines to major league sports teams indicates that you do not understand how the airline industry works. You may wish to rethink your illusion of working for a "Major". It can be a great job but the price you pay in life sacrifices and shear desperation when the industr...

Is it really just the pilots' pay that is the sole source of the airlines profits? So Gale, the answer to your question is a basic no... but the more you have the less they have... and the less you get the more they get. It's less about the companies profits and more about the personal profits of t...

I hear you loud and clear crimson.

if I would be laid off or looking for work, I would never ever apply or take a job at these companies just for my pride and my fellow pilot friends! You would rather take a job at McDonalds out of pride, than work in your field while still advancing your career? There are mouths to feed, pride and ...

That's the problem with principles. Sometimes they are not cheap. And they are usually not easy. Unfortunately, when we have a passion for something, we may be willing to sacrifice our principles to satisfy the passion. And with this in mind I always try to remind myself of my priorities… and princi...

The solution will not come from the CPPC but from the individuals who will make up the membership. Therefore until the profession is properly represented that will influence regulators and employers it is up to the individuals to act as they wish to be represented. As long as we/you/they/I, continue...

It's a beginning. And from beginnings grow great things.

The efforts and work of the collective agreements of the past are not in question however collective agreements only apply within. An overarching industry standard is required, it will either be detetmined by the "old guard" or the "young blood"; act or get acted upon, your choice. The College of P...

Is it really just the pilots' pay that is the sole source of the airlines profits?

Pilots do have the ability to resist the negative pressure on our profession. Say no. American Eagle pilots did it. Now THAT took some guts! The first step has been taken and the true colours of the rest of us will show in who will follow the lead.