Brick Head You seem so stuck on the idea that having a choice to go past 60 will destroy the present compensation system. The logic is flawed and the math does not follow. With over 3000 pilots, the average age will not change significantly when a few people elect to stay longer. Just as it doesn`t ...

AIR NAVIGATION COMMISSION FINAL REVIEW OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO ANNEX 1 IN THE LIGHT OF COMMENTS FROM STATES AND INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS (Presented by the Director of the Air Navigation Bureau) 1. INTRODUCTION 1.1 On 2 December 2004, the Air Navigation Commission (167-10) reviewed a proposal to...

Just my opinion, but by following the cases, I believe that both groups have won their cases and the remedy phase is in progress. An order for cease and desist is imminent, as is reinstatement for those who have filed cases. I doubt it will apply to anyone who hasn't filed a complaint. I do suspect ...

The information you request is available at the Canadian Human Rights Commission website http://www.chrc-ccdp.ca/contact and the Flypast60.com web-site. If you are inquiring about a potential complaint, please contact by telephone, fax or mail. Here are some links that may help answer some of your q...

Brick Head wrote

The Tribunal has a responsibility to protect deferred compensation systems.

I have read and reread the CHRA and cannot find that section of the ACT. I don't believe it has that responsibility. Could you direct us to the exact location of proof for your suggestion?

I am still in my 40's. Don't make assumptions you cannot prove or support. You act like our UNION spouting rubbish without referring to the facts.

SURVEY – AGE 60 RETIREMENT RULE ACPA COMMITTEE Followed by REPORT/ASSESSMENT Training Committee No changes, no effect on Collective Agreement ; not affect any part of the Training / Licencing requirements under our C/A. (G. Bobro, Feb. 17/’06) Crew Rest Facilities Committee No apparent problems . (...

60 is not the normal age of retirement in Canada. No other airlines 705,704, or 703 force their people to leave at 60. There are more pilots out there than there are in Air Canada. Even the ones at Jazz go to 65. The first Fly Past 60 guys were hoodwinked by a cunning lawyer with errors (a.k.a. lies...

Just a little more info. Summary of Evidence by Dr. Jonathan R. Kesselman Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (Thwaites et al./Air Canada and ACPA) November 6, 2009 I am appending hereto my curriculum vitae and publications record, my study on mandatory retirement policies in Canada published by the C.D....

Before you all make assumptions have a look at what ACPA reports in Feb- Mar 2006 said about flying past 60. Secrets kept from the troops. It is time to be questioning the MEC. Studies done in consultation with experts and consultants. Supplied by Max 111 SURVEY – AGE 60 RETIREMENT RULE ACPA COMMITT...

Brick head said I wonder if the CHRT would have chosen this route had they seen the financial impact study during the hearings? That study would have sent a very clear message of just how severe the alternatives would need to be in order to preserve the benefit. But as we know that did not happen. T...

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What would make good reading is the Mercer Report produced for Air Canada on the Impact of Age 60 pilots remaining. That would be "GOOD READING". The fact that it is not presented in the Tribunals is significant. You can bet that with the hundreds of thousands or even millions being spent to fight a...

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Brickhead, Your eloquent and nicely packaged statement would easily fool a number of readers. However, BS is still BS no matter how it is packaged, but I do understand how the propaganda process works. A few pilots staying a few years longer doesn't destroy the whole machine. You seem to be confusin...

Mercer Report Mandatory Retirement Legislation Quashed Last updated: 28 October 2009 Written by: Marcel Théroux In Vilven v. Air Canada et al (Vilven), the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT) has held that Air Canada’s mandatory retirement policy must be rewritten. The CHRT has found that the man...

YYCFLYGUY wrote: the juniors that have career progression stalled for up to 5 years More Bunk to scare the troops with pure fantasy. Please check the math. The above statement would require that 100% of the employed pilots stayed an average of 5 more years with no one leaving early, no one going at ...

Brickhead wrote: we have individuals before the CHRT, driving the agenda, who are bent on not just ending mandatory retirement, but also destroying our current deferred compensation system This once again is proof of more of the lies being spread by our untrustworthy Union MEC fear-mongering and vil...

We will all be seeing this end very soon. The FAA are allowing domestic pilots over 65 in Canada, as it complies with ICAO as domestic airspace. Canada and the US do not have an over /under rule. 777 RP's are fully trained- there is no BFOR. All 998 other air carriers in Canada do not have problems ...

Jacques Strappe wrote: ) I do agree with Rockie in regards to planning properly for that possible eventuality. Obviously Air Canada does as well, as they train the 777 RP's to full FO standards, so no problem when the over 60's come back next year. They also have done studies that showed how much mo...

Many have stated that Age 60 was in the contract and was freely negotiated and agreed upon when we started. Can any one of you, who keep spouting this, please do a little research and report back to us, with references please, just exactly when this significant super bargain we all made was and what...

So many of you want no change and it all back the way it used to be. I bet the MEC and AGE 60 Committee would be happy to put the following old rule to a vote, and I bet they could word it so that it to would pass. AIR NAVIGATION ACT AMENDMENTS 1922 THE Air Ministry has just issued the following ame...

Facts: As early as 1986, Canada, having earlier abandoned its National upper age limit on Constitutional grounds, filed a "difference" with ICAO on its age limits, requesting, that the ICAO limits be modified or revoked. ICAO has been looking into increasing age limits ever since. In 1986, the Feder...

International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) 12/09/2006 01:46 PM http://www.icao.int/cgi/goto_m.pl?/icao/en/new.htm Page 1 of 11 AN-WP/8074 APPENDIX B COMMENTS OF STATES AND INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS IN RESPONSE TO STATE LETTER AN 5/16.1-05/17 REFERENCE: Attachment A, pages A-2 and A-3 STATES ...