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by Biff
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:49 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Government aid is comming for the airlines
Replies: 30
Views: 5426

Re: Government aid is comming for the airlines

Pitiful. This government is a real shame; hopefully Canada will get real leaders one day... Yah, lets get that conservative party back in power, you know, the ones that took away the right to strike for Air Canada pilots, remember them ???? I’ll take them any day over the clown show running the cir...
by Biff
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:22 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Will Westjet survive?
Replies: 163
Views: 36714

Re: Will Westjet survive?

Management did their best to paint the pilots as the devil during negotiations and pit the rest of the employees against them. I think what we have here is an example of the brainwashing having its intended effect. Management didn't try to paint pilots as the devil, ya'll did that when you lined th...
by Biff
Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 54428

Re: One List

The reason why the last vote was rejected was mostly due to misinformation. The polling done afterward showed that the majority of people heard a rumour, didn't bother to read the proposal, and voted based on the rumour. Please do share. What was this rumour that caused me to vote the way I did?
by Biff
Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:19 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Did Encore MEC insist on no back flow?
Replies: 10
Views: 3187

Re: Did Encore MEC insist on no back flow?

JBI This particular rumour started from one of our captains who claimed to hear it directly from our CEO. The captain is well respected with no reason to make it up. If it’s not true the westjet/encore MECs should set us straight in writing. As it is now, if one believes this rumour, it would appear...
by Biff
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:48 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Did Encore MEC insist on no back flow?
Replies: 10
Views: 3187

Did Encore MEC insist on no back flow?

As mentioned in another post, there is a pretty strong rumour that it was the Encore MEC who rejected the bump and flush language in the failed LOU. If this is true, the Encore pilots should be asking their MEC why the MEC insisted on this. If the flow down ability had been in the failed LOU, it wou...
by Biff
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:50 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: OTS WesJet Mainline FO
Replies: 75
Views: 18803

Re: OTS WesJet Mainline FO

One thing your average Encore pilot won’t tell you is that during their interview they were asked if they understood the “One List?” They were also made to understand that the list was nothing more than a handshake and was not enshrined in anything. It was also made clear that it could go away. Lon...
by Biff
Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 365
Views: 54428

Re: One List

Fine and dandy to proclaim "true one list". Riddle me this scenario: Lets say 10 pilots are hired at WJ/WJE and they are botl. They are pilots #2001-2010 on the "true one list" #2001-5 are WJ mainline #2006-10 are WJE There are 400+ Encore pilots waiting to flow above all these new hires. Let's say...
by Biff
Thu May 23, 2019 6:51 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 20273

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Ok, fair enough.

Can you now post why a proposed one list would go against the article in the CBA that you referenced?
by Biff
Tue May 21, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 20273

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Whoever is at the bottom of the "one list" gets laid off. Doesn't matter if its a Dash guy or a 737 guy or a 767 guy or a 787 guy. That's the idea of "one list". Agreed, and I would love that, but how does this get done if it violates the mainline Collective Agreement? Well, I’m not the lawyer, lol...
by Biff
Tue May 21, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 20273

Re: A "NEW" One List?

How about this; if we truly want “one list” then make it one list. If there are layoffs to be made, then the layoffs start at the bottom of the list. Doesn’t matter where they are(Encore or Mainline), whoever is at the bottom gets laid off. I'm definitely in favour of this. However, what if its the...
by Biff
Tue May 21, 2019 9:19 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 133
Views: 20273

Re: A "NEW" One List?

How about this; if we truly want “one list” then make it one list. If there are layoffs to be made, then the layoffs start at the bottom of the list. Doesn’t matter where they are(Encore or Mainline), whoever is at the bottom gets laid off. For example, in the case of a reduction, the first thing is...
by Biff
Sun May 19, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Are things now better for WJ pilots?
Replies: 3
Views: 3750

Re: Are things now better for WJ pilots?

Who wants to be forced to take a job at Encore (if laid off)? That’s a prime opportunity to pick up a lucrative contract or go back to the bush for a season or travel. If the next iteration of the one list forces me to fly a Q, I’ll vote no to that. What a mess :( Ahhh, the infamous "That's a prime...
by Biff
Thu May 16, 2019 7:00 am
Forum: General Comments
Topic: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion
Replies: 130
Views: 24215

Re: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion

Victory wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 6:47 am
Oops, the plan for WestJet world domination just got cut short. What's for lunch today?
Buying new 787’s from a company called Boeing, maybe???
by Biff
Wed May 15, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 41659

Re: One list

tbayav8er wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 5:15 pm
So let's say the LOU gets fixed up with wording to protect certain things that you guys were concerned about (layoff protection, etc.)...Would you guys vote "yes" to it?
I think we’re trying to mandate the MEC do something better than that. Hopefully the MEC’s will have a comm out soon
by Biff
Wed May 15, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 41659

Re: One list

Now, for Biff and ex-DC10 driver and sarg, it looks like I have been proven wrong that even after a failed LOA, the WJ MEC is looking at different options and wording. I'm happy to be wrong on this. I hope that we can continue working on this to protect pilot unity at WestJet. Cheers No worries bud...
by Biff
Tue May 14, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: BETRAYAL!
Replies: 38
Views: 11870

Re: BETRAYAL!

What DYNA said...

I believe there will be a motion passed tomorrow night guys. The MEC will be mandated to renegotiate. If all the emotion I’m hearing here is real(and I’m sure it is), then the company would be stupid to not join us at the table. Don’t overreact until it’s over.
by Biff
Tue May 14, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: General Comments
Topic: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion
Replies: 130
Views: 24215

Re: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion

Onex bought the company to make a 2x profit over the medium term. The only way to do that is to grow. I see a pretty big 787 order coming down within the next year. Growing is not necessarily the only way to add value. Taking WestJet back to its core strategy, and selling of components would impres...
by Biff
Tue May 14, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: General Comments
Topic: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion
Replies: 130
Views: 24215

Re: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion

Onex bought the company to make a 2x profit over the medium term. The only way to do that is to grow. I see a pretty big 787 order coming down within the next year.
by Biff
Sun May 12, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 41659

Re: One list

As an aside, you seem to enjoy spouting your lawyering credentials. I have a question. If all lawyers are as sure of their position as you seem to be, why do we need judges in this country? Perhaps it's because people with less topical knowledge insist on arguing endlessly like yourself. Oh...the i...
by Biff
Sat May 11, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 41659

Re: One list

I’ve heard of none of the MEC’s asking you still not to go to Swoop(please correct me if the Encore MEC has put out a memo requesting you still not go). The Encore MEC has provided the information regarding Swoop however has indicated that it does not recommend Encore pilots going to Swoop due to t...
by Biff
Sat May 11, 2019 11:37 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 41659

Re: One list

We’re not “screwing over our Encore brothers and sisters”. We’re standing up for ourselves(and for our Encore brothers and sisters when they flow over). Don’t worry, a large percentage of our pilot group still wants some form of one list. The company wants some form of one list. We, the pilot group...
by Biff
Sat May 11, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 41659

Re: One list

Voting no will just make Swoop more attractive (if it could be at all). Instead of letting it fizzle out and squashing it like a bug, Swoop will grow to be a bigger thorn in your side. But I guess it's all about me me me again... unity can go fly a kite. Who cares. Swoop is going to be crewed eithe...
by Biff
Sat May 11, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 257
Views: 41659

Re: One list

I disagree...still voting no! Make WestJet Great Again! :lol: They do sound like Trump supporters, don't they? And you can't reason with those people. Thanks for screwing over your Encore brothers and sisters :roll: We’re not “screwing over our Encore brothers and sisters”. We’re standing up for ou...

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