:supz: Politics….. my dear boy……. Politics JT has political cover because of the position of PP and CPC, JS and NDP. The Bloc doesn’t give a FK either side. That’s why JT has told the Business Group as well as AC top executives who were clamouring for “ binding arbitration “ this isn’t going to hap...

Reassignment to "Mainline" routes would essentially equate to scabbing, which if not mistaken is now been addressed under Federal Law as being a non starter... Given that all flying conducted by Jazz are done as AC flights, I could also argue that we probably should not be doing any flying! Incorre...

Donald wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 2:34 pm National Post put up a ridiculous take:

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/libera ... mmediately

No author. Another hit piece by the looks of it.

Reassignment to "Mainline" routes would essentially equate to scabbing, which if not mistaken is now been addressed under Federal Law as being a non starter... Given that all flying conducted by Jazz are done as AC flights, I could also argue that we probably should not be doing any flying! Incorre...

There is a major difference between a strike and a lockout, which is the effect on passenger compensation. In the event of a strike, the carrier is not on the hook to compensate for disruptions, as it's considered beyond their control in the same way as a weather event. However, a lockout is very c...

Better to do the right thing and look like a sucker, then do nothing and actually be one. Are we fair weather players or do we step up when things swerve a little. Stepping up only when you know the outcome shows no courage. I hope it is a down pour with 30 kt winds on the 27th, because f*** it, th...

Air Canada flight crews; good news regarding government remaining on the sidelines for your negotiations. CN and KNCP rail have locked out workers. Situation sounds like the same song we're seeing on the Air Canada fronts. https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/22/canada-national-rail-l...

Couple of points. Two flight requirement? What about taking a ferry from Vancouver Island? Bede was correct in his warning. Having a commuter policy with a requirement in it only hands the company a stick to use. There is one constant. You give management a stick? They will eventually use it. Only a...

That's a common belief, but from my understanding, it's incorrect. The PBS is a different optimizer than the pairing generation optimizer. The pairing generation optimizer optimizes for cost. If you make something more expensive (min daily credit, RIG's), it will cheap out somewhere else. The optim...

Bede,

Daily Guarantees won’t mess with PBS. A 5:15 Daily guarantee would eliminate swapping. It is the sigle thing that would make most of our PBS issues disappear

As for you commuter comment? Bang on. The AC management loves sticks. The last thing we want is to hand them one.

Are there any stories out there from pilots who have had to strike? Did you get stranded? How did the union get you home? Was it stressful? Everyone I talk to is ready to go the distance but just curious about stories of how it was from pilots who have experienced it It’s a shit show. But no one di...

rudder wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:40 am
Talk of pilot strike and potentially shuttered operation not even in the news yet.

https://www.travelweek.ca/news/air-cana ... s-sept-17/

Fanblade, you're right, the year 1 to year 12 comparison isn't exactly a good one, but that year 1 FO is still in a pretty serious position especially when the year 12 captain is sleeping on the way to Dubai. Here is a better one. Year 1 WB captain to year 1 WB FO. 4x the salary. Year 1 NB captain ...

Tell me again why a captain is worth 4x what an FO is? 30% premium I can see, but you're not selling me on much more than that. You are comparing a 1st year FO to a year 12 CA. A 5 year FO makes about 60% of Captain wage. A 12 year FO makes about 68% of Captain wage. The exception is the first 4 ye...

Understood. Too bad a friendly early extension couldn’t have been negotiated a year ago, when stock prices were higher and demand unlimited. I really think your union F— ed up royally if they didn’t even try. Who is running the shop? RippleChips? Seriously. Now the business cycle has turned. The be...

I analyze the economy, industries , and companies professionally. Its how I make my living for the past 30 years. Probably been around longer than you. And this ain’t my first rodeo, as the saying goes, with what is coming. I said this many months ago. Get it done. Your bargaining position gets wor...

I analyze the economy, industries , and companies professionally. Its how I make my living for the past 30 years. Probably been around longer than you. And this ain’t my first rodeo, as the saying goes, with what is coming. I said this many months ago. Get it done. Your bargaining position gets wor...

itsgrosswhatinet wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 8:05 am Seemed like a joke to me.

It seemed the same to me.

No one here has said something they later regret?

What I question is why it wasn’t left on the cutting room floor. And why.

...highly unlikely event the government tries to force us back with legislation. The Federal Government cannot, cannot, legislate Federally Regulated workers back to work with strike breaking legislation. This has been ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of Canada. The court also ruled that...

A bunch of senior Dash-8 pilots could have the seniority to be widebody captains. Jazz is significantly smaller than AC, I doubt people will get too worked up over it. Everyone would have an AC seniority number, making the whole flow issue moot. Management could wash their hands of the issue becaus...

Everyone chill.

Been on Strike twice now. Once for almost two months.

No one dies.

The best advise I can give is walk away from social media, news as this approaches.

We all support you and wish you the best, however i really think you are wrong in thinking the company is worried about public reaction to a strike or lockout. They already know everyone outside of aviation will be on their side. It’s forward bookings they will be concerned with. The uncertainty th...

Stable_Approach wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 6:19 pm No lockout. Government will push it to arbitration and AC pilots will get 30-34% increase and that will be the end of it.

Kevin?

Strike is now a constitutional right.

They will not allow us to strike. That would leave assets in random locations all over the world. A logistical nightmare. They will need to wind down the operation in an orderly fashion, ensuring the aircraft are "where they want them"......not where we leave them. So, yes, they will lock us out, 1...

There is zero chance the government lets you guys strike. The world has changed. After all the back to work legislation during the Harper years and all the litigation that ensued. The Sup court made the right to strike a constitutional right. The government can not legally stop a strike. They have ...