It’s really a shock that only about 6-10 % of words actually make up such a small percentage of commutation. Things like tone of voice or actual body language read so much into this. This is off topic, but such a widespread held belief that it needs to be addressed. This whole '90% of communication...

Quite the laundry list of shortcomings...

Good negotiators would have fixed all those complaints.

Hopefully some of the stone cold avcanada killers will be in the room next time around.

Dare to dream cowardly "cucks"

Couldn't care less superstar, no where near 12yr 37 pay... WJ or AC. Just laughing at the armchair twats, who've never had any negotiation experience, other than buying a used couch on FB marketplace... "never take the first offer" to bad the adults at the table for what 15 months had never heard th...

bcflyer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:36 pm

freighter27 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:09 am Cuck?

42% over 4 years?
What would a "decent" contract be?
Clown show here...

42% raise and still only 8% over WJ. Puts things in perspective don’t you think?

Guess that they can only hope that the avcanada superstars step up to lead the next negotiations, show them how it's done, alphas

Thepoors seems to have a quite particular outlook on the way negotiations go, first cucked, then bemt over... Maybe someone really hurt him on his way to becoming a big plane pilot... Hopefully, if he really is an airline pilot, this is all some online, hide-behind-the keyboard act. It is truly unse...

Yes Going from 2%/yr to 10%/yr, massive failure.... Not going on strike is not a surrender, and avoiding possible arbitration is a definite positive. Trudeau was never staying out of this, there is next to zero chance that sec 107 was not going to be invoked, no matter how much hot air came out of a...

Cuck?

42% over 4 years?
What would a "decent" contract be?
Clown show here...

Spell it out please, bcflyer

By all accounts, the expenses are much more generous in the new contract, and much harder for the company to diddle. Where is the loss here?

paytoplay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:15 am FYI, Porter has a TAFB set up for per diem and also has a tipping credit paid separately for this very issue.

Do they need to be reminded to eat?

Actually they have a valid excuse to not tip now. We lost our gratuity allowance. You didn't lose it, that amount was rolled into the new TAFB per diem system. Which overall is a 30% increase over the old system (tax fee). “Rolled into” is another way of saying “used to finance the new increase” It...

Do you have the 2003 first 2 and 3 year pay scales?
How long were those pay rates in effect?
How long were today's remaining boomers paid these amazing pay rates?

The first two years (3 for rp) pay are missing, what was the rate for those years?

Thepoors

Could you share the 2003 payscale?

It would possibly be enlightening.

Boomers? The youngest of the baby boomer generation is approximately 57 years old. How large a proportion of the Air Canada pilot group fits into this demographic? How well represented is this generation in the union executive and negotiating committee? As has been stated before, it is most likely t...

I would argue 16 is too much. You should be able to be at home, uninterrupted at least half the month. You can. It’s called seniority. So the 35 year old captain with 2 young kids at home should be on the road 18 per month so the 60 year old can only work 8. Got it. Makes sense. Not an expert, but ...

They're eating the dogs

cdnavater

Don't ask the NOers that, they always have the 8% spent before May rolls around...

That deal passed with something like 84% of the vote, was not a sprinkle sweetener, or if it was, AC pilots really are as dumb as some around here think...

The raise is 26+4+4+4.... the giveback is possibly 8%... if you would prefer to not take the 8% and just give me 18%+4+4+4, , I'll take that deal too... tomato, potato Year 2, 3, 4 are minus 4% not plus. How does that math work? The 26% is a permanent part of the payscale... gets paid every paychec...

Yes, Boeing, are they operating under Canadian labour laws? Do they have a government that is almost guaranteed to step in and force arbitration? Do they work in a country where the thought of anyone getting ahead is a immediate cause for jealousy? The Liberal government would probably get a boost f...

The raise is 26+4+4+4.... the giveback is possibly 8%... if you would prefer to not take the 8% and just give me 18%+4+4+4, , I'll take that deal too... tomato, potato

It will be a very lonely walk, and pilots will look like a bunch of whiny cry babies, poor things with their guaranteed pay progression, and 40% raises

Pay for a guaranteed 26+4+4+4 % raise with a possible 8% profit share? I'll take that deal every single day of the week. If I'm wrong here, where do I send my 8% cheque's?

Pretty dumb reason to shut down the forum, draft and makeup info is available for all the bullys on reportlink, or has that been shut down too? I can't be bothered to check...
Any more good conspiracies, should I go get some tinfoil?