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by JBI
Sun May 26, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 18
Views: 2826

Re: A "NEW" One List?

The wording was there before. Sort of. The ability to bump was in the non-unionized WJPA mainline and Encore contracts from 2015. However, not included in those contracts was the very strong scope clause that now exists in the mainline ALPA contract. The contractual clauses issue that I have referr...
by JBI
Sat May 25, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 18
Views: 2826

Re: A "NEW" One List?

The wording was there before. Sort of. The ability to bump was in the non-unionized WJPA mainline and Encore contracts from 2015. However, not included in those contracts was the very strong scope clause that now exists in the mainline ALPA contract. The contractual clauses issue that I have referr...
by JBI
Thu May 23, 2019 4:24 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 18
Views: 2826

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Well, I’m not the lawyer, lol, but can't an LOA, agreed upon by all parties and voted on by the membership, supersede the contract? Haha put me on the spot :P Short Answer for an anonymous aviation message board: No, an LOA cannot violate a term in the CA Short Lawyer Answer: It depends, while, gen...
by JBI
Wed May 22, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

So.......Old commercial pilot was right after all ??? Uh, no. my mistake then. I could've swore months ago, maybe mid 2018, there was discussion about the one list; and an outlier said it was going to disappear. To which, the majority said the one list will NEVER die. The man with many AvCanada nam...
by JBI
Tue May 21, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 18
Views: 2826

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Biff wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 2:31 pm
Whoever is at the bottom of the "one list" gets laid off. Doesn't matter if its a Dash guy or a 737 guy or a 767 guy or a 787 guy. That's the idea of "one list".
Agreed, and I would love that, but how does this get done if it violates the mainline Collective Agreement?
by JBI
Tue May 21, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 18
Views: 2826

Re: A "NEW" One List?

How about this; if we truly want “one list” then make it one list. If there are layoffs to be made, then the layoffs start at the bottom of the list. Doesn’t matter where they are(Encore or Mainline), whoever is at the bottom gets laid off. I'm definitely in favour of this. However, what if its the...
by JBI
Tue May 21, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 18
Views: 2826

A "NEW" One List?

What things do mainline pilots want/need to see in a new LOA in order for them to vote for a one list? It seems the other One List thread has officially "jumped the shark" (google it - great photos of the Fonz!). Since the No vote last week there has been a fair bit of support from mainline pilots t...
by JBI
Mon May 20, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Encore without the One List
Replies: 10
Views: 1500

Re: Encore without the One List

Well if I'm not mistaken, their agreement just says they are entitled to 10 days off/month. Whether that's what they are actually being scheduled for, I'm not sure, but I wouldn't want to take the risk. To each their own though. There's no way I would be spending 20-21 days/month away from home tho...
by JBI
Wed May 15, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

[...] Because if that was the case, you guys would not have favored 92% of that TA. Had there actually existed an experienced demographic that could provide these kids with a voice of reason, you would have educated your youth on how voting in such a contract could easily backfire pending the one-l...
by JBI
Mon May 13, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

Victory wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:20 pm
Did they have the takeover thread deleted? Not a good sign.
Nope, looks like it was just moved to the General Comments Section
by JBI
Mon May 13, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

Yikes! I sure picked the wrong week to go on vacation. Lots of interesting developments the beginning of which I couldn't even begin to speculate on. Anything could happen, but I would caution about anyone getting all worked up that Onex will immediately parting out the airline a la Gordon Gekko. Wh...
by JBI
Mon May 13, 2019 5:18 am
Forum: General Comments
Topic: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion
Replies: 128
Views: 12466

WestJet to be Acquired by Onex

All amounts in Canadian dollars unless otherwise stated CALGARY, Alberta, May 13, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- WestJet Airlines Ltd. (“WestJet”)(TSX: WJA) announced today it has entered into a definitive agreement that provides for its acquisition in an all-cash transaction. Under the terms of the agree...
by JBI
Sun May 12, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

So I’m right? The Encore MEC hasn’t told you guys not to flow to Swoop? Thanks for setting that straight. Maybe we can stop using the “we’ll go to Swoop” as a threat to the mainline pilots then. As I said before if you want to go to Swoop, go to Swoop 👍 I'm afraid you misunderstood - the Encore MEC...
by JBI
Sat May 11, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

Well stated Biff! EX DC10 Driver, I'll also pose the question to you - it's an honest one - what provisions make this LOA poor? And/or what else do mainline pilots voting No think that they'll be able to negotiate instead? Going through this thread the only specifics outside of "the company has mis...
by JBI
Sat May 11, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

I’ve heard of none of the MEC’s asking you still not to go to Swoop(please correct me if the Encore MEC has put out a memo requesting you still not go). The Encore MEC has provided the information regarding Swoop however has indicated that it does not recommend Encore pilots going to Swoop due to t...
by JBI
Sat May 11, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

Ex DC10 Driver wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 8:24 am
I disagree...still voting no!
Make WestJet Great Again! :lol:
by JBI
Sat May 11, 2019 3:12 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

It matters not what was said or not said to OTS pilots, Encore pilots - or anyone else for that matter - at the interview; this is a new day and new opportunity through a democratic process. Nothing is static in life. Times change and people must change with the times. Terminating the one list will...
by JBI
Wed May 08, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Lay-Off And Scope Considerations of the One List LOA
Replies: 1
Views: 1549

Lay-Off And Scope Considerations of the One List LOA

Sorry for the long post, but this One List LOA is extremely important for everyone at WestJet and Encore. I ask that you take a read through carefully. It seems that the biggest complaint from Mainline Pilots with regard to the One List LOA is the different wording regarding lay-offs and scope. I wa...
by JBI
Wed May 08, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

A few responses to some of the discussion topics that I hadn't touched upon previously. JBI, I understand that you’re a lawyer, so you would or should know better than most the importance of how something can be interpreted. Section 1-1.05 is the important one where (a) there will be 90% of active W...
by JBI
Tue May 07, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Encore contract negotiations
Replies: 75
Views: 11007

Re: Encore contract negotiations

Happy for the Encore guys and gals! I think it's a great starting agreement! Well done. Dave I believe that many Encore people voted this contract in because it’s somehow tied to the main seniority list. But, from what I understand, is that the seniority list is dependant on what the WJ Pilots vote...
by JBI
Tue May 07, 2019 11:01 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

According to a mainline friend who listened to the All pilot call tonight, the WJ MEC indicated that it will NOT ask to try and renegotiate (As is 100% their right to do so) if the LOA vote fails. A "no" vote does NOT mean they try to renegotiate. A "no" vote means mainline pilots will not get a ch...
by JBI
Tue May 07, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

Sorry, this is a long trend... has it been answered if a no vote will effect past encore pilots? Encore pilots that flowed since Jan 1, 2019 would lose their seniority. Encore pilots that flowed prior to Jan 1, 2019 would keep their seniority but in theory lose their date of hire which could reduce...
by JBI
Mon May 06, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

According to a mainline friend who listened to the All pilot call tonight, the WJ MEC indicated that it will NOT ask to try and renegotiate (As is 100% their right to do so) if the LOA vote fails. A "no" vote does NOT mean they try to renegotiate. A "no" vote means mainline pilots will not get a cha...
by JBI
Mon May 06, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

This is an interesting topic... not just as it relates to Westjet/Encore but as related to other airlines. Certainly worth looking at how other airlines manage flow from their regionals both now and in the past - including flow from wholly owned regional subsidiaries. Altiplano, respectfully what o...
by JBI
Mon May 06, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 243
Views: 23194

Re: One list

For the record JBI I was not directing my comment at you. I cut and pasted from Biff who’s post I agreed with..but not with his views on ALPA. Only after did I see I also copied your name so I see why you would think I was directing it at you. Sorry, that was not my intention. All good, sir. I real...

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