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by JBI
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:16 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Retirement Wave
Replies: 10
Views: 2323

Re: Retirement Wave

I know what it means. So for somebody starting today with every WestJet FO and Swoop pilot ahead of them going back to 2010 waiting for a captain spot and possibly every Encore pilot ahead of them too, and a company that isn’t expanading very fast it will probably be until 2037 or very close to it ...
by JBI
Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:25 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Retirement Wave
Replies: 10
Views: 2323

Re: Retirement Wave

That’s a long time to wait The 'peak' retirements will be in 2037, meaning the largest age cohort of pilots at WJ at the moment is 47 years old. I can tell you that there are plenty of pilots at mainline who are older than 47 though. So unlike AC where you saw just a trickle of retirements and then...
by JBI
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 22
Views: 4099

Re: Updates on one - list.

It’s not back the way it was, my impression is they are just maintaining the list, really just for ‘housekeeping’ purposes. Nothing is finalized or in force yet. This is correct. Nothing of substance will occur at the moment with respect to those affected by the seniority draws. Either the draws wi...
by JBI
Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:34 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 22
Views: 4099

Re: Updates on one - list.

Why would an MEC, whose responsibility is to represent its members be able to do this without another vote. At the end of the day there was a vote among its members that resulted in a No and until that is rectified, I believe it would be a huge issue for them to go against the wishes of its members...
by JBI
Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 22
Views: 4099

Re: Updates on one - list.

So, a few facts. -Onex does not yet own WestJet. It will not be finalized til the winter or early next year. -There is a strong desire on all fronts including management to continue talking about seniority transfer. How that will actually work out remains to be seen. -Encore is already a CPA of West...
by JBI
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 22
Views: 4099

Re: Updates on one - list.

Is this the company’s fault or ALPAs? Wasn’t it westjet that didn’t want a true one list because of training costs in the event of lay-offs?Or was it ALPA that gave it up? My guess is that a true one list that the pilots want the company will resist so what does westjet do now? Like a TSB accident ...
by JBI
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:16 am
Forum: General Comments
Topic: Flying Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 and Jazz Air / Air Canada Express for the first time
Replies: 15
Views: 1811

Re: Flying Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 and Jazz Air / Air Canada Express for the first time

As a Q400 pilot myself (not for Jazz) I have very high confident in the aircraft and the crews at Jazz. Would happily fly on the aircraft. As ahramin stated, it is significantly safer than driving. I will note that in a 'smaller' turboprop aircraft, there are slightly more noises and bumps than in a...
by JBI
Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Top Tips
Replies: 14
Views: 1813

Re: Top Tips

First of all, congrats and welcome to Encore! A few tips that helped but that I also learned the hard way: 1- While the goal of training is obviously for the new hire to learn, don't expect them to spoon feed you. While I found the initial training tough with trying to figure out what was 'need to k...
by JBI
Tue May 28, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Encore, then Jazz?
Replies: 20
Views: 1814

Re: Encore, then Jazz?

If Encore offers you a position, take it. If you are ready to move on from your current job and you feel that Encore would be a better opportunity it is best to take it. Who knows what next month will bring or if Jazz will ever call. Fact is, despite there being unprecedented demand for low-ish time...
by JBI
Sun May 26, 2019 7:23 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 4941

Re: A "NEW" One List?

DropTanks, I apologize if it seemed that I was suggesting you were only it in for yourself. That was not my intention. I was outlining that those in your position and senior to you have very strong lay-off protections. I've also outlined in previous posts that for those at mainline junior to you (cu...
by JBI
Sun May 26, 2019 4:34 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 4941

Re: A "NEW" One List?

The wording was there before. Sort of. The ability to bump was in the non-unionized WJPA mainline and Encore contracts from 2015. However, not included in those contracts was the very strong scope clause that now exists in the mainline ALPA contract. The contractual clauses issue that I have referr...
by JBI
Sat May 25, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 4941

Re: A "NEW" One List?

The wording was there before. Sort of. The ability to bump was in the non-unionized WJPA mainline and Encore contracts from 2015. However, not included in those contracts was the very strong scope clause that now exists in the mainline ALPA contract. The contractual clauses issue that I have referr...
by JBI
Thu May 23, 2019 4:24 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 4941

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Well, I’m not the lawyer, lol, but can't an LOA, agreed upon by all parties and voted on by the membership, supersede the contract? Haha put me on the spot :P Short Answer for an anonymous aviation message board: No, an LOA cannot violate a term in the CA Short Lawyer Answer: It depends, while, gen...
by JBI
Wed May 22, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 26677

Re: One list

So.......Old commercial pilot was right after all ??? Uh, no. my mistake then. I could've swore months ago, maybe mid 2018, there was discussion about the one list; and an outlier said it was going to disappear. To which, the majority said the one list will NEVER die. The man with many AvCanada nam...
by JBI
Tue May 21, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 4941

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Biff wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 2:31 pm
Whoever is at the bottom of the "one list" gets laid off. Doesn't matter if its a Dash guy or a 737 guy or a 767 guy or a 787 guy. That's the idea of "one list".
Agreed, and I would love that, but how does this get done if it violates the mainline Collective Agreement?
by JBI
Tue May 21, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 4941

Re: A "NEW" One List?

How about this; if we truly want “one list” then make it one list. If there are layoffs to be made, then the layoffs start at the bottom of the list. Doesn’t matter where they are(Encore or Mainline), whoever is at the bottom gets laid off. I'm definitely in favour of this. However, what if its the...
by JBI
Tue May 21, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 4941

A "NEW" One List?

What things do mainline pilots want/need to see in a new LOA in order for them to vote for a one list? It seems the other One List thread has officially "jumped the shark" (google it - great photos of the Fonz!). Since the No vote last week there has been a fair bit of support from mainline pilots t...
by JBI
Mon May 20, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Encore without the One List
Replies: 10
Views: 2541

Re: Encore without the One List

Well if I'm not mistaken, their agreement just says they are entitled to 10 days off/month. Whether that's what they are actually being scheduled for, I'm not sure, but I wouldn't want to take the risk. To each their own though. There's no way I would be spending 20-21 days/month away from home tho...
by JBI
Wed May 15, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 26677

Re: One list

[...] Because if that was the case, you guys would not have favored 92% of that TA. Had there actually existed an experienced demographic that could provide these kids with a voice of reason, you would have educated your youth on how voting in such a contract could easily backfire pending the one-l...
by JBI
Mon May 13, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 26677

Re: One list

Victory wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 2:20 pm
Did they have the takeover thread deleted? Not a good sign.
Nope, looks like it was just moved to the General Comments Section
by JBI
Mon May 13, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 26677

Re: One list

Yikes! I sure picked the wrong week to go on vacation. Lots of interesting developments the beginning of which I couldn't even begin to speculate on. Anything could happen, but I would caution about anyone getting all worked up that Onex will immediately parting out the airline a la Gordon Gekko. Wh...
by JBI
Mon May 13, 2019 5:18 am
Forum: General Comments
Topic: WestJet to be sold in friendly deal to Onex Corp. for $5 billion
Replies: 129
Views: 16076

WestJet to be Acquired by Onex

All amounts in Canadian dollars unless otherwise stated CALGARY, Alberta, May 13, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- WestJet Airlines Ltd. (“WestJet”)(TSX: WJA) announced today it has entered into a definitive agreement that provides for its acquisition in an all-cash transaction. Under the terms of the agree...
by JBI
Sun May 12, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 26677

Re: One list

So I’m right? The Encore MEC hasn’t told you guys not to flow to Swoop? Thanks for setting that straight. Maybe we can stop using the “we’ll go to Swoop” as a threat to the mainline pilots then. As I said before if you want to go to Swoop, go to Swoop 👍 I'm afraid you misunderstood - the Encore MEC...
by JBI
Sat May 11, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 26677

Re: One list

Well stated Biff! EX DC10 Driver, I'll also pose the question to you - it's an honest one - what provisions make this LOA poor? And/or what else do mainline pilots voting No think that they'll be able to negotiate instead? Going through this thread the only specifics outside of "the company has mis...
by JBI
Sat May 11, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 26677

Re: One list

I’ve heard of none of the MEC’s asking you still not to go to Swoop(please correct me if the Encore MEC has put out a memo requesting you still not go). The Encore MEC has provided the information regarding Swoop however has indicated that it does not recommend Encore pilots going to Swoop due to t...

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