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Does this mean that because the foreigners are mostly gone home now that AT have these 17 recalled? Of course not. AT have contracted out their B737-800 flying to CanJet who also have foreigners flying their aircraft BUT WITHOUT reciprocation. AT has recalled everyone in January and hired even more...

I've read plenty about the issue. More "foreigners" are coming to Canada than other countries will let in. Blah, blah, blah. I just find it ironic how everyone seems to be all for the efficient movement of labour and capital (free trade) until their personal interests are at stake. At that point it...

I agree with you Gilles it should be a 1 for 1 reciprocal deal but do you want to see how fast I shoot down your argument as devils advocate? Sunwing is it true you hired 200 foreign pilots this winter? Yes but because of those 200 we we able to create 700 jobs for Canadians. Ok, well done. Your lo...

Bede wrote:What would happen if every country's pilots convinced their governments not to allow "foreigners"?

Are you willing fully missing the point, Bede? Or haven't you read enough on the issue?

This issue about the RAIC really seems to annoy you as you've mentioned it several times in several threads. Everything about Sunwing's and Canjet's way of exploiting the loopholes in the programs, along with the unashamed help of our Government, annoys us. Unfortunately, it seems that we have to k...

whipline wrote:The argument coming from AT is a bit rich for me though.

Really? Which argument would that be?

Lower Cost often means a more profitable organization. A profitable organization means job security and more jobs. I have seen and lived through aviation at its worst... It's not perfect, but Sunwing is far from aviation at its worst. Sunwing has weathered some potentially lethal financial storms a...

AsheetMaDraws wrote: If Transat pilots weren't concerned, a lot of these threads would never have
started as it was the noise Transat made about laying off 17 pilots due to
Sunwing bringing in foreign pilots.

Bravo Gilles!

Hey Gilles, you do realize your company was the first to bring over foreign pilots without reciprocal agreements through CJ? (Who do you think they got the idea from??? Certainly not AT! CJ is its own company, Group Transat has nothing to do except that it buys seats from CJ, so whatever CJ decides...

swell...

Hope it's not just a smoke screen, 30 out of 150 is still a long ways to go, but it's a start.

square wrote:There's thousands of guys that are qualified to fly at least FO at Transat and Sunwing who would kill for the job, but there's no listing to apply for because Europeans are getting all the calls. Do they even pay us any tax?

Air Transat does not hire temporary foreign workers.

It may not be evident at WJ now but I would be careful to pontificate that it would never happen. LOU's are not worth the paper their printed on these days. It would be foolish to think otherwise. :smt038 on your whole post 727driver BTW, I don't know if any of you had a chance to read the article ...

Canada is the only G8 country in which pilots don't have job protection. Other countries, in their wording, use the term "qualifiable" instead of "qualified"... So, in those countries, no foreign pilot is allowed to work there until ALL qualifiable pilots have jobs. This is the kind of protection we...

The big picture is that if a business does not return the cost of capital, it is not a business and is not sustainable. The bigger picture is that folks are still expecting to pay 1975 fares for their airline tickets and some companies are willingly caving in to that nonsense... but in order to mak...

I am glad you mentioned inflation at the end...In the 1960s, 150k , after tax bought a pretty nice hourse. Now a 150k (at a higher tax rate) is hardly a downpayment on a house....Inflation has a very eroding effect on numbers. Perhaps rework your numbers in 1960 dollars, and see what the average ai...

It doesn't matter if its Sunwing, WestJet, Air Canada, Jazz, Canjet or Transat ... no foreign pilots ... period. ...Or Canadian pilot jobs, on Canadian soil going to foreign workers? To me, that's real news .. not stories about families waiting an extra 4 hours to get home from Disney World. This s...

But this time I see the issue spread across the entire piloting profession in Canada and the future implications it will have on our jobs. And it doesn't matter where you work or who you work for nor what tier. It's time to stand as a group of professionals (if that's what we consider ourselves) an...

That lost looks real impressive..... ........the truth is anyone with enough education to read and write can master all the stuff with no problem... Of course they can, that's not the point I was trying to make... But somehow I think you know that. I might agree with the "glorified bus driver" deno...

We hate when people say we are just glorified bus drivers. But we truly are. You gotta be kidding, right? No disrespect to bus drivers, they do a great job, but I have yet to meet one that, apart from the medical and PPC concerns you mention, has to work with a ManOps, SOP, FCOM, AFM, MEL, CARS, FC...

proper wrote:So who wants to march on parliament...seriously?

I think that day is closer than you think... Many issues at stake within the Canadian pilot community. I'm not AC either.

twinpratts wrote:Next.

So you're basically saying to all hopeful Canadian pilots bend over and shut up?

Only in Canada...

Hey Skylounger, I am not here to vent. I just want to raise awareness about this issue. Do you agree with these practices? I think it's unfortunate that our industry is going this way. If our industry is going "that way" as you point out, it's not Transat that you have to blame... Transat is just d...

ontheBUS wrote: I can't leave a good job to go work for you and then get let go a few months later. Please have some respect towards pilots.
Thanks.

Instead of registering on this BB this morning just to vent, I hope you told the same to whoever called you from AT to offer you an interview...!