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by DropTanks
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:22 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One List
Replies: 13
Views: 1643

Re: One List

I have been getting so much conflicting information that I wanted to ask those who actually voted down the one list. Why did you vote it down? What can we do at Encore to alleviate your concerns? How would you want it fixed? Well in regards to the “what can we at Encore do” question, nothing plain ...
by DropTanks
Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session
Replies: 57
Views: 6968

Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Read again and read the whole thing! Air Canada started Rouge which caused WestJet to respond by Swoop. Air Canada constantly chases the lower end of the market creating new carriers and pitting the smaller carriers against one another in order to drive down the bid for CPA for instance. Dude, you’...
by DropTanks
Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: OTS WesJet Mainline FO
Replies: 64
Views: 10124

Re: OTS WesJet Mainline FO

They don’t look for loopholes, they just flat out won’t abide by the contract and will push it as long as they can until forced by either a negotiated MOS or the arbitrator himself...that could take another couple months to accomplish so as far as company is concerned it’s a win. Meanwhile the pilot...
by DropTanks
Mon Aug 26, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: OTS WesJet Mainline FO
Replies: 64
Views: 10124

Re: OTS WesJet Mainline FO

moe wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:54 am
Been bitten one too many times.
Well then I think 99% of the Captains at WJ will come down with a terrible case of the go @#$! yourselves and book off Jan 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.......28,29,30.....

Nobody’s fit for duty when they have the rage.
by DropTanks
Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: WestJet Encore Pilot Open House Calgary September 4th
Replies: 14
Views: 1685

Re: WestJet Encore Pilot Open House Calgary September 4th

Yeah no biggie. Insurance covers the hull losses anyways. Get over it already!
by DropTanks
Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: OTS WesJet Mainline FO
Replies: 64
Views: 10124

Re: OTS WesJet Mainline FO

Irrelevant. Nobody holds mainline captain with less than like 9yrs seniority. Jan 1st we go to YOS for Captain Pay so nearly all captains will be at the top rate...finally.
by DropTanks
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:49 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Westjet FO Encore Ad Gone?
Replies: 16
Views: 2193

Re: Westjet FO Encore Ad Gone?

ahkhamza, Encore is not the fastest path to WJ mainline, if you look at the newer OTS hires at mainline. The only people who have to wait 5 years are the Encore fellas. I know of many getting in at WJ mainline without any 705 time Encore has been an excellent stepping stone to AC these past few yea...
by DropTanks
Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:16 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: ONEX plans
Replies: 102
Views: 17103

Re: ONEX plans

There’s no sentiment that the JV will bring in some major change or allow us to eat Delta pilots lunches. Simply an incremental increase in flying done smartly. That’s all. Some people have had pie in the sky dreams of leadership from Delta coming in or Delta buying a huge chunk of WJ but those were...
by DropTanks
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Aircraft for rent
Replies: 7
Views: 890

Re: Aircraft for rent

Good God Almighty.
by DropTanks
Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: ONEX plans
Replies: 102
Views: 17103

Re: ONEX plans

If onex wants to play hardball with the pilots, we will just play hardball back. Just like before. I belive onex will accelerate growth and sell company via IPO in 5-10 years. Espp plan has been announced for all westjetters except pilots. Pilots are negotiating through alpa team. The replacement p...
by DropTanks
Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:14 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: ONEX plans
Replies: 102
Views: 17103

Re: ONEX plans

Droptanks, I agree that those pilots that were holding a lot of 18$ shares have a windfall at 31$. However, that may be a fleeting one time event. If Onex, decides to play hardball on salaries, what are the options for WJ pilots? Widebody expansion, which the optimistic are heavily relying on,canno...
by DropTanks
Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: ONEX plans
Replies: 102
Views: 17103

Re: ONEX plans

Cloak, You seem pretty optimistic regarding Onex ownership of WJ. Have you given any thought to the issue of pilot compensation. WJ pilots have enjoyed and benefited from a share purchase plan. It has formed a percentage of overall compensation since the inception of WJ. Some have done extremely we...
by DropTanks
Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:37 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: ONEX plans
Replies: 102
Views: 17103

Re: ONEX plans

It’s very simple really. Just sign a sweetheart CPA deal with Encore thus giving Encore guaranteed income for years raising its value. Sell it off. Count your $$$ while WJ is saddled with a high cost CPA for years. Swoop is a big ? As well as a festering pus-filled tumor. Somebody might just be dumb...
by DropTanks
Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:58 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Retirement Wave
Replies: 10
Views: 3085

Re: Retirement Wave

2037 is indeed the peak year for turning 65. That being said we’re not talking about 200 guys that year. More like 50 ish. Very slow retirements here at WJ. More like a dozen or so turning 65 per year increasing to maybe two dozen per year and peaking in 2037. There’s a document floating around with...
by DropTanks
Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:53 am
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Updates on one - list.
Replies: 30
Views: 6424

Re: Updates on one - list.

From ALPA to mainline pilots : This is the plan going forward: the MEC has approved the renegotiation of the transfer protocol for pilots between the WestJet Group of companies. The MEC has further decided to maintain the status quo by keeping Encore pilots' reserved positions on the WestJet Pilot ...
by DropTanks
Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: WestJet Encore
Topic: Encore with under 1000 Hours?
Replies: 10
Views: 1755

Re: Encore with under 1000 Hours?

doiwannabeapilot wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:13 pm
i've heard of someone with 6 months on a 1900 going to mainline. not sure the tt.
if you have 200 hours tt, apply to mainline.
🤣😂
by DropTanks
Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:48 pm
Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
Topic: Pet Peeves?
Replies: 57
Views: 10529

Re: Pet Peeves?

#1. 200hr wonder speaking at 100 words per minute to ATC because apparently the faster you speak the better, more experienced you are. 🙄

#2. Reading back every single word in the clearance. Ex: “heading 330 for crossing traffic” 🤦🏼‍♂️
by DropTanks
Sun May 26, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 5407

Re: A "NEW" One List?

Fair enough. To answer your question... Two-way travel on the list. Guaranteed, iron clad true two way travel on the One list. Any job reductions at any of the three companies would result in the lay-off of the most junior person on the entire list regardless of the letterhead on his/her paycheck. P...
by DropTanks
Sun May 26, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 5407

Re: A "NEW" One List?

JBI It seems you’re operating on wrong assumptions. Allow me to set it straight. I’m not in this for myself. I do feel relatively safe from lay-off (knock on wood). The people I’m thinking of are the 1yr, 2yr, even 3yr mainline FO’s that sit stuck at the bottom of the list much longer than at any ot...
by DropTanks
Sun May 26, 2019 5:50 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: A "NEW" One List?
Replies: 24
Views: 5407

Re: A "NEW" One List?

The wording was there before. Sort of. The ability to bump was in the non-unionized WJPA mainline and Encore contracts from 2015. However, not included in those contracts was the very strong scope clause that now exists in the mainline ALPA contract. The contractual clauses issue that I have referr...
by DropTanks
Mon May 20, 2019 6:31 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 28933

Re: One list

Here’s the thing about that long post above. The company can put RJ’s at Encore tomorrow. It’s entirely their right as stated in our scope clause. It’s also not up to Encore Pilots to “accept” the aircraft. It would simply happen and you would have to fly them. Just that simple so insinuating that t...
by DropTanks
Sat May 18, 2019 11:19 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: BETRAYAL!
Replies: 38
Views: 8595

Re: BETRAYAL!

WestJet intended for all NGs to be on Swoop's OC, a new narrow body jet at Encore and only MAX/787 at WestJet. That did not happen. Swoop is only a ULCC, with no integration with WestJet. The initial planning for Swoop in early 2017 always envisioned a completely separate operation from WestJet due...
by DropTanks
Tue May 07, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 28933

Re: One list

All good man. Same Tealish team. In the end it will all work out somehow for everybody.
by DropTanks
Tue May 07, 2019 3:27 am
Forum: WestJet
Topic: One list
Replies: 245
Views: 28933

Re: One list

The conversation between OTS hires and Encore pilots must come with an understanding that a lot of OTS hires have a lot less experience than the Encore pilots. The reason why some went to mainline and others to Encore was just...luck. In the last few ground school, none of the OTS hires had more ex...

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