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by blueskiessabove
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: 17 year TA?
Replies: 217
Views: 34594

Re: 17 year TA?

Doubt it. Curious, when do you retire? I think I know who you are and if I'm right you stand to lose nothing if this is voted down. It's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun. Another Union driver lol such a sad state! Th...
by blueskiessabove
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: 17 year TA?
Replies: 217
Views: 34594

Re: 17 year TA?

Doubt it. Curious, when do you retire? I think I know who you are and if I'm right you stand to lose nothing if this is voted down. It's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun. Another Union driver lol such a sad state! Th...
by blueskiessabove
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: 17 year TA?
Replies: 217
Views: 34594

Re: 17 year TA?

Doubt it. Curious, when do you retire? I think I know who you are and if I'm right you stand to lose nothing if this is voted down. It's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun. Another Union driver lol such a sad state! Th...
by blueskiessabove
Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:19 am
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: 17 year TA?
Replies: 217
Views: 34594

Re: 17 year TA?

Just So People Know! I stand to inform all my fellow pilots who could not attend. I went to multiple MEC Negotiating Committee YUL, YVR meetings to see what was offered. I was open minded thinking people have the best intentions( F.Y.I. I think everyone felt like the negotiating committee was a bunc...
by blueskiessabove
Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:48 am
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: 17 year TA?
Replies: 217
Views: 34594

Re: 17 year TA?

If this doesnt pass, Jazz will be in trouble. Will get more if it's turned down, AC is scared that's why there coming at us with a 17 year contract. Nobody offers that long of a contract if there not worried about pilots. Wait why not lock it in for 17 years! LOL Doubt it. Curious, when do you reti...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: 17 year TA?
Replies: 217
Views: 34594

Re: 17 year TA?

If this doesnt pass, Jazz will be in trouble. Will get more if it's turned down, AC is scared that's why there coming at us with a 17 year contract. Nobody offers that long of a contract if there not worried about pilots. Wait why not lock it in for 17 years! LOL Doubt it. Curious, when do you reti...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: 17 year TA?
Replies: 217
Views: 34594

Re: 17 year TA?

Oxi wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:10 am If this doesnt pass, Jazz will be in trouble.
Will get more if it's turned down, AC is scared that's why there coming at us with a 17 year contract. Nobody offers that long of a contract if there not worried about pilots. Wait why not lock it in for 17 years! LOL
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Deal or No Deal?
Replies: 61
Views: 13907

Re: Deal or No Deal?

Yeah of course they said that. But it was the first offer good enough to bring forward. It certainly isn't a final offer. I guess we'll have to see if it gets voted down. I don't think I'm willing to gamble my future on a maybe. That's my view and everyone else has theirs. I'm glad we're a democrac...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Things are brewing in the kitchen.
Replies: 132
Views: 27606

Re: Things are brewing in the kitchen.

I disagree. - 60% of AC pilots to come from Jazz- not insignificant with the hiring that is coming there with something like 1200 pilots required at AC in the next couple of years. - 90% of those that apply will be accepted. In seniority so no BS about picking and choosing. Closest thing to a guara...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Things are brewing in the kitchen.
Replies: 132
Views: 27606

Re: Things are brewing in the kitchen.

You should never take the FIRST deal given to you. Basic negotiations. Go back and ask for more and get more. Our union guys are afraid to stand up to AC. Jazz paid ALPA dues this whole time. The MEC at Jazz cannot represent GGN best interest. This is not a merger. We are only offering them employm...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Things are brewing in the kitchen.
Replies: 132
Views: 27606

Re: Things are brewing in the kitchen.

Piece of CRAP TA. I disagree. - Pay issues look to be addressed with Dash 8 cap lifted, a blended pay scale and better credit for captain pay - Improvement to deadhead credit - 60% of AC pilots to come from Jazz- not insignificant with the hiring that is coming there with something like 1200 pilots...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Think carefully before you make your next move
Replies: 122
Views: 23737

Re: Think carefully before you make your next move

To all my fellow aviators out there, think twice about voting yes. If you do you should be ashamed of yourself, this is the reason why the industry is so shitty in Canada and isn't getting better. Stop letting the fear mongering tactics get to you. Jazz isn't going anywhere and will be around for a...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Think carefully before you make your next move
Replies: 122
Views: 23737

Re: Think carefully before you make your next move

To all my fellow aviators out there, think twice about voting yes. If you do you should be ashamed of yourself, this is the reason why the industry is so shitty in Canada and isn't getting better. Stop letting the fear mongering tactics get to you. Jazz isn't going anywhere and will be around for a...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:33 am
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Think carefully before you make your next move
Replies: 122
Views: 23737

Re: Think carefully before you make your next move

:smt041 :smt041 I would like to remind my fellow peers that you are in as good a position to negotiate for better terms as ever. We in Canada have become the rock bottom of the industry when it comes to compensation. When the AC directors and board decide to eliminate one carrier’s contract and give...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:30 am
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Think carefully before you make your next move
Replies: 122
Views: 23737

Re: Think carefully before you make your next move

Just a reminder for the Jazz guys/gals.... By 2025 every single major airline in the country with the exception of Air Canada will have gone through a round of collective bargaining which means almost every single major pilot group will have had the opportunity to push the bar higher before you hav...
by blueskiessabove
Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Think carefully before you make your next move
Replies: 122
Views: 23737

Re: Think carefully before you make your next move

To all my fellow aviators out there, think twice about voting yes. If you do you should be ashamed of yourself, this is the reason why the industry is so shitty in Canada and isn't getting better. Stop letting the fear mongering tactics get to you. Jazz isn't going anywhere and will be around for a...
by blueskiessabove
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:55 am
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Think carefully before you make your next move
Replies: 122
Views: 23737

Re: Think carefully before you make your next move

I will be voting NO. Can you imagine if the U.S. regionals locked in a 17 year TA (10 years cost neutral) when they were making $18k a year? Just under the guise of stability? Now they are getting signing bonuses and gains like never before. AC and Chorus know this is coming and want to lock us in ...
by blueskiessabove
Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Think carefully before you make your next move
Replies: 122
Views: 23737

Re: Think carefully before you make your next move

We doubled down against Calin in 2010...........Sky and GGN were born, YYZ decimated and no right to BID on work for YEARS. Now we would have a MINIMUM 90% chance at a mainline job...Loyalty from mainline (investment and board member)...chance at US Cpa...pay guarantee...united pay table...pensions...
by blueskiessabove
Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
Topic: Deal or No Deal?
Replies: 61
Views: 13907

Re: Deal or No Deal?

To quote this individual who doesn't know what he's talking about. I'll tell all you fellow Jazz Pilots. What if you vote "yes" contract goes through. 6 months later interview at AC and your unsuccessful plus the GGN guys coming in and taking a senior spot to you potentially. Then what?. your locked...

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