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- Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:24 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: “Pilots are leaving” — ALPA
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28786
Re: “Pilots are leaving” — ALPA
WJ ALPA did an incredible job pushing Onex around. They negotiate tough. To say ALPA would have got more after they striked is a bit amateur. Your max leverage is when the other side KNOWS you're going to do it. Once you're out on the streets, the economies of scales change. And I wouldn't give reli...
- Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:16 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: “Pilots are leaving” — ALPA
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28786
Re: “Pilots are leaving” — ALPA
Weird, another thread in the Air Canada forum trying to negate ALPA's narrative. I'm a medium guy, experienced and poor. I'll leave at a moment's notice. I have no mortgage, can't afford it. I can be working in another country next week with no financial burden in Canada. I own nothing. Bob is a gr...
- Sat Jun 15, 2024 1:04 pm
- Forum: General Airline Industry Comments
- Topic: Encore pilots vote 79% yes to garbage 5yr contract
- Replies: 68
- Views: 11545
Re: Encore pilots vote 79% yes to garbage 5yr contract
Because 79% most likely are just using encore as a stepping stone and in a few years are off to AC/Porter/Overseas. So might as well get a slight pay bump while getting your ATPL. I love this Let's be really shitty unionists and capture some sweet Fort St John's flying so I can build some hours to ...
- Fri May 31, 2024 7:47 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Did ACPA nearly cause a Scope Collision?
- Replies: 22
- Views: 3747
Re: Did ACPA nearly cause a Scope Collision?
Would there have been any merit to passing the last MOA then bringing in ALPA exit the contract and open negots? At least there would have been wage increases for those two years. I’m new to the company so please forgive me if this question is tone deaf or stupid. It contained PERMANENT concessions...
- Tue May 14, 2024 6:05 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: WORLD CLASS CONTRACT: ALPA
- Replies: 69
- Views: 27052
Re: WORLD CLASS CONTRACT: ALPA
Great townhall. Quite long. Just straight up Q & A.
Really enjoying getting to know our leaders through these sort of events. Well done
Really enjoying getting to know our leaders through these sort of events. Well done
- Sat May 04, 2024 6:26 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Now is NOT the time for selfies or other "Look at me" Posts
- Replies: 46
- Views: 9801
Re: Now is NOT the time for selfies or other "Look at me" Posts
Hear! Hear!
Seeing boot licking pilots in Air Canada social media this week kissing corporate ass as our negotiating team works against the same corporation who thinks we deserve less than industry standard is revolting
Seeing boot licking pilots in Air Canada social media this week kissing corporate ass as our negotiating team works against the same corporation who thinks we deserve less than industry standard is revolting
- Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:24 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Wear your goddamn lanyard!
- Replies: 88
- Views: 29113
Re: Wear your goddamn lanyard!
I dont think there is a limit on surveying the membership and measuring the trust levels
This MEC always seems to be communicating and keeping close to the membership
A far cry from the cronyism of ACPA
This MEC always seems to be communicating and keeping close to the membership
A far cry from the cronyism of ACPA
- Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:26 am
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: FLAIR NOT PAYING PILOTS FOR WORK
- Replies: 140
- Views: 231211
Re: FLAIR NOT PAYING PILOTS FOR WORK
In BC, the after tax take yearly take home pay for someone making 75k a year is actually closer to $57,000 take home pay. You don’t need beer, and life exists outside YVR and YYZ. 2 facts. 1.) An F/O at Flair makes well above the average single income in Canada 2.) majority of people suck at person...
- Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:21 pm
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: FLAIR NOT PAYING PILOTS FOR WORK
- Replies: 140
- Views: 231211
Re: FLAIR NOT PAYING PILOTS FOR WORK
Boomers gonna...boomDanWEC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 6:45 pmDo you live in a tent?TC.Enforcement wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 1:46 pm Anyone making 75k a year who needs to work a second job is just bad at finances.
- Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:37 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: “I compete in Canada, so I need to be competitive in Canada,” - Mike Rosseau
- Replies: 97
- Views: 21107
Re: “I compete in Canada, so I need to be competitive in Canada,” - Mike Rosseau
Absolutely not
Time to make the company listen.
See y'all this Friday...
Time to make the company listen.
See y'all this Friday...
- Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:52 pm
- Forum: Air Transat
- Topic: BEWARE $30,000 BOND FOR 3 YRS
- Replies: 144
- Views: 59199
Re: BEWARE $30,000 BOND FOR 3 YRS
It astounds me the lack of understanding and education that is displayed here. No concept of how a union works . No concept of the aviation industry. No concept of how to fix the Canadian pilot industry is, but they’re keen to play armchair warrior, without attempt in real life. As far as I can tel...
- Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:45 am
- Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
- Topic: Why do pilots keep taking concessions?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3350
Re: Why do pilots keep taking concessions?
From my perspective, Pilots might agree to concessions for various factors such as Industry Uncertainty, Cost-Cutting Measures, Avoiding Job Losses, Market Pressure, etc. crossover grid 20 yrs of it! Canadian aviation is no stranger to it Always an excuse for a concession Key is having the resolve ...
- Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:35 pm
- Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
- Topic: Why do pilots keep taking concessions?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 3350
Re: Why do pilots keep taking concessions?
Canuckistan...
Can't blame you...no one is even entering the profession anymore
Can't blame you...no one is even entering the profession anymore
- Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:56 pm
- Forum: Jazz Aviation LP - Air Canada Express
- Topic: Negotiations
- Replies: 1659
- Views: 436763
Re: Negotiations
Vote no could mean our irrelevance as a company and we continue with our current pay until we completely implode. At least take the time to formulate a constructive adult statement. You're job isn't to run an airline It's to fly planes & get paid as much as possible Vote Yes to garbage and expect t...
- Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:30 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Are Air Canada pilots the lowest paid in the world?
- Replies: 101
- Views: 30403
Re: Are Air Canada pilots the lowest paid in the world?
Because pilots walking out and shutting down the airline will cut into your margins further. We don't need to compare ourselves to anyone, we don't need to justify our demands, we only need to value ourselves and accept nothing less. There is unity building in this membership. When the ALPA roll ou...
- Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:42 am
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: New Flair Tentative Agreement
- Replies: 64
- Views: 15009
Re: New Flair Tentative Agreement
With the increase of MMG to 85 hrs, how many positions are eliminated?
And how many captain spots are subsequently reduced?
What effect does that have on progression?
And how many captain spots are subsequently reduced?
What effect does that have on progression?
- Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:09 pm
- Forum: Flair Airlines
- Topic: Foreign DEC
- Replies: 71
- Views: 13337
Re: Foreign DEC
- Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:17 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: ALPA Petition
- Replies: 183
- Views: 44917
Re: ALPA Petition
Regarding dues, this is the quintessential cheap pilot pitch. ACPA is cheaper? That’s the pitch? To represent you professionally and enforce your contract, you want the lowest bidder? Fortunately we’ve seen their work and its DIY-grade. Time to bring in the pros. Yes it will be more expensive that’...
- Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:11 am
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: ACPA LOA?
- Replies: 334
- Views: 81191
Re: ACPA LOA?
Does that include walking two picket lines that created some of the working conditions you currently enjoy? It means not supporting Reps that clearly don't represent the wishes of the membership anymore Your support of the YVR Base Chairs that love concessionary deals is a key part of the problem W...
- Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:53 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: ACPA LOA?
- Replies: 334
- Views: 81191
Re: ACPA LOA?
As someone just starting at jazz, I like what I heard will be on it. I hope they vote yes. Apparently we will get locked in seniority numbers?! Ok cool so you get a number at AC and now pay at jazz can stay in the toilet because of the carrot. This is essentially it Everyone read that Company tryin...
- Tue May 17, 2022 5:21 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: YVR Base Chair Recall
- Replies: 78
- Views: 17248
Re: YVR Base Chair Recall
How does someone read Blake & Quinn's literature and not be scared shit.less that these guys are representatives of this pilot group and have a say in the pilot group's future??
They couldn't even bothered to write it themselves. 3rd person?!

They couldn't even bothered to write it themselves. 3rd person?!
- Tue Apr 26, 2022 9:00 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: The Forgotten Furloughs
- Replies: 14
- Views: 5189
Re: The Forgotten Furloughs
..., and Flair now has better starting pay Air Canada's starting pay is worse that Joe's Dirtbag Flying Service. But you get a shiny uniform! It's not a "now" clause. Flair has had better starting pay for at least the last 5 years. Probably longer. The list of airlines with better starting pay than...
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:13 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: Changezilla
- Replies: 36
- Views: 9483
Re: Changezilla
It appears the YVR & YUL Chairs got together and brought forward a motion of conflict of interest to take control of the MEC.
Scary what these guys will do for the company
Scary what these guys will do for the company
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:58 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: How much is this dysfunction costing us?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 7378
How much is this dysfunction costing us?
With the YUL & YVR base chairs showing there is no limit of what they will do to push ACPA into dysfunction for their personal relationships with the company, how much money have they already cost the membership & how much are they going to cost members in the future? 2024 is rapidly approaching. Th...
- Fri Apr 08, 2022 6:41 pm
- Forum: Air Canada
- Topic: The end of Rouge?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 14624
Re: The end of Rouge?
Don't AC Flight Attendants literally make more than pilot new hires now?