Thank you for a job almost well done. Names. Many people want the names of those who were behind this distasteful resolution. Some are obvious from the chats. Are meeting minutes available? They held an anonymous survey of the entire membership. If you want to know how people really feel let them s...

I thought this new contract would be an Encore

alkaseltzer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 7:33 pm

GeoffPilot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:44 pm Pretty clear message from our tenacious MEC Chair...

WEAR YOUR WORLD CLASS CONTRACT LANYARD

Shills are now easily identifiable

Shills is a strong word.

Does it make you nervous?

Better be wearing that lanyard

What do you call a RP south of the border?

cdnavater wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:01 pm


To the author of this thread, I do not have a single regret to my YES vote, I will sleep fine and truly hope all Jazz pilots ignore the noise and see it for what it is, a free raise in pay.

Yes we get it...you love concessions.

To sum up views above: - Jazz isn't an airline - The US model of capacity purchase agreements (CPAs) is completely different and they never whipsawed regionals off each down there. They simply got good wages by saying Yes to everything - Say "Yes" to save Jazz from poor management of allowing their ...

I just want to make sure I understand the logic here:

You need to say "Yes" because the management at Air Canada is so incompetent that you need to take subpar pay to "save" your airline?

Aerobod, You didn't answer the question You clearly stated in 2015 that Southwest pilots need to take concessions for the airline to survive The pilots did not. In fact, their contract is eons ahead of anything in Canada with more gains on the horizon Their company lost nearly a billion dollars in a...

The contract at AC opens this year and with the days of the old guard dragging down a global airline below the depths of ULCCs, the pay & QOL will inevitably go up

I am very excited about what this new energy with the pilot group can do moving forward

Exciting times!

Ok so I admit after reading the comments above how insensitive and damaging my remark was It's just hard not to buy into management rhetoric when your union just spews out the same message I'm hoping the days of members seeking out individualistic ways to make more money is in the past and in the fu...

I vote 'Yes' to everything

Those idiots at Sunwing & Encore getting pay raises for zero concessions while I was happy to vote Yes to permanent concessions

#winning

First off. Thank you Gary for being the tie break to let the pilot group vote. I hoped you would be the MEC chair that would have the foresight to see that this type of decision belongs to the group and not the MEC. It could not have been an easy decision, good on you. Secondly, I'm a yes vote. I a...

The point is to keep Canadian pilots in Canadian flight decks. How can we see better wages and working conditions in Canada if the employers have a cheap get out of paying a pilot what he/she’s worth card? Our American counterparts don’t stand for this .. evident by the campaign against sponsoring ...

Thankfully 80% of the voters weren't gullible terminal 'yes' voters.

Too many yes votes in the past have done permanent damage to this industry

Well done AC pilots!

So you guys are telling me the VP of Flight Ops at Flair lives in a van down by the river with a flight attendant?

Cringe

All I know is Delta pilots are definitely envious of acpa and all of its accomplishments

I mean, look at that contract & pay. Simply world class

If merging is a concern, I'd be damn sure to be with the union that has the most amount of experience in the matter - ALPA

Imagine the dumpster fire of acpa doing a merger. Yikes

4 years of flat pay sold as a win by the Old Boys Club after the loss of the DB pension replaced by a comical DC pension It's great to see grassroots organizing and a group of peers use data to guide future decision making vice reactionary scare tactics Incredible solidarity displayed by the pilot g...

Pretty hard to do any worse

We managed to sign a 10 yrs deal before a pilot shortage & historic global airline growth

Then took permanent concessions during said 10 yrs deal

And nearly took more concessions during a historic labour shortage

600 furloughed out of 4200...14 or 15% What percentage of Jazz pilots were laid off? What percentage of Air Transat pilots were laid off? What percentage of Sunwing pilots were laid off? What percentage of Porter pilots were laid off? What percentage of Westjet pilots were laid off? What percentage...

In order of priority:

- MEC Chair
- Negotiations Chair
- 'Yes' Voting Base Chairs (particularly the YVR Chair)
- CEO

And find new consultants aka toss Jalmer aka lets just get to ALPA

Another management wanna with his or her 2 cents

Thanks for the joke.

It's almost as funny as what this vote result will do to this company lap dog association known as ACPA

There are PERMANENT scope & training concessions here. AC pilots are a joke when we compare to any global carrier. There should not be ANY concessions when the data clearly makes this pilot group look like an international joke How much more scope are we going to have to give up to get a 7% raise to...

There is no way ALPA could be worse than ACPA

What will be the B777F pay rates? I believe he is referring to if there will be a 10% paycut or not Pilots already agreed to a paycut on the 767 and the pay could go to arbitration. The company has a strong case for giving the pilots another 10% paycut to fly the exact airplane they are already fly...