Yul Comm: Fellow Pilots, To clarify key facts omitted from last night’s FastRead: A special MEC meeting to consider recall of the JAZ MEC executive was properly called with majority support from YUL, YYC, and YVR. The meeting notice was issued late on December 22 when the Vancouver captain represen...

Question is how many guys at AC would trade pay for QOL? Can't underestimate the grip of money... it takes hold of everyone, and then it's never enough. You could predict perpetually trading away every last lifestyle aspect for a few extra bucks. Happens in every group in every industry. It's fasci...

Doesn’t affect the majority but how the shit was long call reserve missed

Feb & Mar are the next 2 GS scheduled. With all the contract violations it blows my mind people still apply here. There has to be better options… Seriously, it's time to move on... 58 Hell no, not until all the violations are settled. You would recommend people apply to this dumpster fire?

Anyone know when the next ground schools are planned? As someone joining the hiring pool how long would expect to wait before getting the call? Thank you! Feb & Mar are the next 2 GS scheduled. With all the contract violations it blows my mind people still apply here. There has to be better options…

I’ve seen all these ideas/solutions posted here before. No PML/flow AC won’t hire from jazz. PML/Flow keeps wages down yada yada…. Well turns out none of it matters, AC will do whatever the hell it wants. CB thought these violations were his golden ticket but the CIRB squashed it. The best predictio...

I reject your scare tactics. "If we don't give them what they want they are going to take our scope and flying." Fück that. "They are going to bite us." Give me a break. Come to AC and get a seniority number with the rest of your class when you join. That is the way. No reserved seniority, hell yea...

I'm just glad this whole fiasco is finally over with and the issue can be put to rest, once and for all. Time to focus on the next round of negotiations, and improving the profession as a whole for all pilots in Canada no matter which carrier they work for. Are you happy that 285 of your ex-colleag...

Look like dumb Jazz lawyer did not file at the right place :lol: :lol: :lol: many more year of delay to come, thanks for the legal team. Yup the Jazz MEC whole strategy just got flushed, you can rip up that CPA it’s not worth the paper it’s written on. I think it's premature to say that. The CIRB r...

Man_in_the_sky wrote: ↑Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:10 pm Look like dumb Jazz lawyer did not file at the right place

many more year of delay to come, thanks for the legal team.

Yup the Jazz MEC whole strategy just got flushed, you can rip up that CPA it’s not worth the paper it’s written on.

Man_in_the_sky wrote: ↑Sun Nov 02, 2025 5:28 pm Was the meeting on the 31st. What's the latest rumour

Wasn’t the CIRB supposed to release some sort of preliminary ruling by the end of Oct? Then I heard more mediation sessions were scheduled.

These 4 parties will never agree to anything

Mentioned way earlier in the thread was the talk of the MEC getting topped up to 90 credits. That doesn't really sit well with me. During Negots sure why not. but seems crazy that it hasn't come back down after that. I understand that the company pays 80% of it. Besides sending a lame dart.

I know I am going to regret this but... I don't usually offer unsolicited career advice but when asked, I usually make the following recommendation: "Never accept a position anywhere that you do not want to work at, for the sole reason that it is a stepping stone to where you want to go. First, you...

I think he's right, maybe a bit on the cynical side, but I've never flown with anyone on the new pension who wanted to stick there till retirement. Throughout my entire life I have only one regret - Working at Jazz. Go literally anywhere else and apply direct to WS/AC/TS One regret your ENTIRE life...

I don't know what skeletons you have in your closet from your employment with Jazz but if the payscale would've be the same (or a very close percentage) as AC's A220 I would've 100% spent it at Jazz. He has nothing but bitterness to contribute to AvCanada, just ignore him I think he's right, maybe ...

Yup, CIRB is done. No reason to hold your breath ULP filed in the end of 2023… I don’t think anyone is holding their breath anymore. Maybe if the Jazz MEC didn’t wait a year to file the ULP it would be settled already. They did not wait a year, they filed it the day after the contract was ratified ...

Additionally now it's common knowledge that Air Canada's former legal counsel chairs the CIRB. I'm sure they have no vested interest in the outcome... Yup, CIRB is done. No reason to hold your breath ULP filed in the end of 2023… I don’t think anyone is holding their breath anymore. Maybe if the Ja...

Altipiano, you’re free to voice your opinion here, but the fact remains: the CIRB has full authority to adjust a seniority list, even if the list is “owned” by the union. Here’s what you can realistically expect from this case: Compensation for current Jazz pilots – This stems from the PAL Agreemen...

Altipiano, you’re free to voice your opinion here, but the fact remains: the CIRB has full authority to adjust a seniority list, even if the list is “owned” by the union. Here’s what you can realistically expect from this case: Compensation for current Jazz pilots – This stems from the PAL Agreemen...

Unfortunately we still have ex-Jazz Pilots that are convinced they will move 1000 numbers up the seniority list. Along with that belief, comes a massive chip on their shoulder. Hopefully you get some sort of monetary compensation, but the seniority list is not changing. You don't know that. No one ...

truedude wrote: ↑Tue Jul 15, 2025 5:05 am

Cessna 180 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:23 pm You know you guys could email the CIRB and they’ll gladly give you all the filings.

Only once it is settled will they provide anything. Until then only those party to the proceedings have access.

Any idea when the next scheduled meeting is?

How is it that some believe that a CBA grievance and an interference complaint has morphed in to a common employer petition? If somebody wants to argue CE, then they have to file it. And trust me, the process will be one a lot more complicated than mediation followed by an order. Jazz pilots want t...

Can someone confirm ACA MEC got their intervenor status? Last time I checked, they asked for it but i never heard back Yes they got it. They were told by the CIRB to get it from what I understand when they attempted to just walk away/were told to leave, because a decision could likely impact them a...

Man_in_the_sky wrote: ↑Thu Jul 03, 2025 10:34 am First of two meeting in July was yesterday, anyone got any info ?

Unconfirmed rumour that no deal was reached between the 4 parties.

ACA ALPA isnt the one definding our interest, JZA ALPA is... I actually spent time talking with those involved and you are right, ACA ALPA is defending the whole roster, not only the 285. Last I heard it needs to be a 4 party solution and I can’t see these groups agreeing to a lunch order. Likely a...