Yes, that's what I meant. Your $350k CAD salary is meaningless today because its buying power is less than the median Canadian income in the 90s. Where exactly do you get those numbers from? The salary’s in the 90’s were not good in Canada. Recession hurt wages a lot. I can’t see any data that poin...

Cuck? 42% over 4 years? What would a "decent" contract be? Clown show here... 42% raise and still only 8% over WJ. Puts things in perspective don’t you think? Guess that they can only hope that the avcanada superstars step up to lead the next negotiations, show them how it's done, alphas Sucks when...

freighter27 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2024 8:09 am Cuck?

42% over 4 years?
What would a "decent" contract be?
Clown show here...

42% raise and still only 8% over WJ. Puts things in perspective don’t you think?

Increase of $150? Love to see your math on that one. Btw it’s the fact that they took something away to fund a so called increase. Guess you are ok with giving up things that we already used negotiating capital to get. A lot of us aren’t. Looks like we gave up breakfast, lunch, dinner, snack, and t...

You didn't lose it, that amount was rolled into the new TAFB per diem system. Which overall is a 30% increase over the old system (tax fee). “Rolled into” is another way of saying “used to finance the new increase” It’s not a 30% raise when you give up some else to get it. It’s a five dollar allowa...

You didn't lose it, that amount was rolled into the new TAFB per diem system. Which overall is a 30% increase over the old system (tax fee). “Rolled into” is another way of saying “used to finance the new increase” It’s not a 30% raise when you give up some else to get it. Spoken like someone who's...

Actually they have a valid excuse to not tip now. We lost our gratuity allowance. You didn't lose it, that amount was rolled into the new TAFB per diem system. Which overall is a 30% increase over the old system (tax fee). “Rolled into” is another way of saying “used to finance the new increase” It...

The number of times Captains cheap out on tips for the shuttle/taxi drivers is crazy, no excuse before and definitely they have no excuse now with new TA, I'll be sure to tear a strip off them if they do. A drink covered once and a while would be nice too lol. Actually they have a valid excuse to n...

People are inherently selfish. This contract catered to 67% of the pilot group. People didn’t vote yes because they were afraid. They voted yes because it best suited them. Happens all the time. Apparently you weren’t paying attention. The threats of “what if” swayed the vote of a large group of pi...

The union who lied for over a year and sold out it's membership for these meager "gains?" And then fear mongered about arbitration to persuade a yes vote? Yeah, that one. I make no apologies for supporting our union. My union speaks for me. They speak for me when I agree with them, and they speak f...

There were plenty of higher time pilots at other airlines waiting for this result before deciding to either go to AC or head overseas. Well, now you're going to see a chunk of guys going across the pond now. Sadly AC doesn’t care. They are happy to lower their hiring minimums to support the stateme...

All this high drama..... Accepting the first offer for anything is just bizarre. Not too many pilots in business I suppose. Ah well, will see soon if the face of aviation has changed in Canada. Judging by the people I’ve talked to it won’t have. Looks like AC pilots will let the industry down again...

I think the respect comment is in order but why would you congratulate that?? I'm sure everyone knows its likely the votes that brought it over 50% were fear votes. There is nothing worth congratulating here. Exactly. Nobody in the Canadian aviation industry should be celebrating. (Except those in ...

All this high drama..... Accepting the first offer for anything is just bizarre. Not too many pilots in business I suppose. Ah well, will see soon if the face of aviation has changed in Canada. Judging by the people I’ve talked to it won’t have. Looks like AC pilots will let the industry down again.

$285/hr... bit of training... a bit of premium/override... max esop match... that's easy $300K. ESOP match is not pay. That’s an investment. Working overtime doesn’t count. Anyone can work overtime and earn more. The fact that people will bitch about working too many days then count on doing overti...

He’s going to be disappointed. Nobody is making $300,000 in their 3rd year. $285/hr... bit of training... a bit of premium/override... max esop match... that's easy $300K. ESOP match is not pay. That’s an investment. Working overtime doesn’t count. Anyone can work overtime and earn more. The fact t...

On paper maybe. In reality it will be a stretch.

He’s going to be disappointed. Nobody is making $300,000 in their 3rd year. The trouble is that the math is already done in the kid’s head. Dollar signs in the eyes. No turning back now. Very true. I fly with a lot of very junior guys/gals and always try to impress on them the value of QOL articles...

He’s going to be disappointed. Nobody is making $300,000 in their 3rd year.

You realize that binding arbitration needs to be agree to by both parties right? That depends. In 2012 Air Canada pilots didn't agree to binding arbitration, but got it anyway (Protection of Air Services Act and FOS). In June, 204 the WestJet mechanics didn't want binding arbitration, but got it an...

I disagree. Why are you defending them when all the evidence points to them selling us out? This narrative that there was some X-files like government conspiracy by the labour minister behind the scenes is ludicrous and pure fantasy. It's a poor excuse likely being spread as rumour by those respons...

Something tells me that this may have been accepted by the MEC very well knowing the majority will vote a big NO to this. Risky, yes. Maybe they wanted to give the power to the members one more time to show management that the power lies with the pilots. You have huge leverage right now. No clobber...

Obviously wages are a huge issue, but thats all anyone hears about - but I'm wondering if you guys have come to agreements on other parts of your contract such as schedules, GDO's, the stupid flat pay, and whatever other areas you need improvement in. We have a general idea but no specifics. A lot ...

Let's reset everyone's expectations. This new contract will be better than the previous one, but it will not be ground breaking for Canada. You're going to get a contract that you can read and understand without the help of a lawyer. Your starting rates are going to be flat rate and starting salary...

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things. Please allow me to do the honour.... You chose to be a pilot and your choices have consequences! If you are not happy with your pay then just leave! Trudeau needs to force these pilots back to work as they will destroy the...