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by Protonpilot
Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:54 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Grievance update for the 285ish former Jazz pilots affected by Flow
Replies: 484
Views: 121639

Re: Grievance update for the 285ish former Jazz pilots affected by Flow

[ For the record, I do welcome any opportunity to give Mikey a chop to the throat. :lol: Some career advice for you…I would take down that post ASAP. Google the SkyRegional pilot who included similar comments in an email. Or the AC pilot who posted about Gaza last year. You’re not as anonymous as y...
by Protonpilot
Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:07 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Grievance update for the 285ish former Jazz pilots affected by Flow
Replies: 484
Views: 121639

Re: Grievance update for the 285ish former Jazz pilots affected by Flow

You're missing the point, which myself and 3rdWorldClassPilot have made over and over again: the MEC surrendered all of our leverage way before that needed to happen. Everyone here keeps skipping ahead to arbitration... We still had 3 DAYS before the strike when these traitors agreed to a dogwater ...
by Protonpilot
Fri Apr 11, 2025 8:13 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Grievance update for the 285ish former Jazz pilots affected by Flow
Replies: 484
Views: 121639

Re: Grievance update for the 285ish former Jazz pilots affected by Flow

The math is simple... 42% raise on an industry worst legacy contract is still the worst contract for legacy airlines. Can you be honest, take a step back and acknoledge that if it was voted down, with the actual climate and treats of our MEC chair stepping down. The actual economical climate would ...
by Protonpilot
Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:02 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Receiving Your Pension While Remaining Employed
Replies: 13
Views: 4925

Re: Receiving Your Pension While Remaining Employed

I would suggest that plan text would apply - if included - with the caveat that it cannot contravene the law, statute, or subsequent prevailing ruling. My plan states the following: “ Upon retirement, you can elect to receive your pension benefit in one of the following ways : ” So it makes clear, ...
by Protonpilot
Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:10 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Receiving Your Pension While Remaining Employed
Replies: 13
Views: 4925

Re: Receiving Your Pension While Remaining Employed

The collective agreement may have changed on this point since I was forced to retire at age 60, but to my knowledge there is nothing in any of the collective agreements of Air Canada with any of its unions that requires an individual to retire in order to receive the pension. Did some digging...thi...
by Protonpilot
Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:59 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Receiving Your Pension While Remaining Employed
Replies: 13
Views: 4925

Re: Receiving Your Pension While Remaining Employed

The longshoremen have an agreement that allows for double dipping, i.e. you can start collecting a pension but aren't required to terminate employment and leave the bargaining unit. Looks like they can even retain their seniority. Air Canada doesn't allow double dipping of this sort in their pilots ...
by Protonpilot
Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:27 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Anyone leave Air Canada?
Replies: 21
Views: 7164

Re: Anyone leave Air Canada?

The last bid shows 7 resignations so 0.13% have left. Not necessarily leaving to go south but resigned one way or another. So, 99.87% are choosing to stay at least for now. Keep in mind that when you see 'resignation' on the bid list, this sometimes means that a new hire was not making it through t...
by Protonpilot
Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:25 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Did Air Canada pilots really take concessions in this negotiating climate?
Replies: 111
Views: 20963

Re: Did Air Canada pilots really take concessions in this negotiating climate?

What seems to be missing from the equation is the rate of decay on the 319/320 fleet. The investor day presentation alluded to the ability to ‘flex’ on these fleet types for capacity as many fins are owned aircraft. However, most of the slides seem to indicate that these aircraft are not part of th...
by Protonpilot
Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:15 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Did Air Canada pilots really take concessions in this negotiating climate?
Replies: 111
Views: 20963

Re: Did Air Canada pilots really take concessions in this negotiating climate?

The above is true but the quick upgrades won’t last forever. Hard to keep track, but with yesterday's announcement (Dec 20) of an additional 5 x A220, the firm orders for the next 5 years are now at about 95 aircraft. 75 NB and 20 WB, and most of that is growth. That's close to 1000 pilots required...
by Protonpilot
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:01 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: We won't leave a penny on the table!!
Replies: 54
Views: 10118

Re: We won't leave a penny on the table!!

Striking has for been demonstrated time and time again for 150 plus years to improve working conditions for workers. The idea this isn't true completely goes against the history of the labour movement. When looking at how unions have fared after going on strike in this country, I'm more inclined to...
by Protonpilot
Sat Dec 14, 2024 8:20 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: We won't leave a penny on the table!!
Replies: 54
Views: 10118

Re: We won't leave a penny on the table!!

I'd add: - Posties have been on strike for nearly a month. Somehow Air Canada pilots were going to get FOS It's true that the posties were allowed to go on strike. Also true is that after five weeks it looks like they're going to be legislated back to work in a roundabout way via the CIRB. Just lik...
by Protonpilot
Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:54 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Moonlighting while at AC
Replies: 72
Views: 14051

Re: Moonlighting while at AC

rudder wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:49 am
Is there a commuted value option with CWIPP?


Yes, to a certain age. Believe it's age 55.
by Protonpilot
Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:12 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Moonlighting while at AC
Replies: 72
Views: 14051

Re: Moonlighting while at AC

Here is a question - how does the CWIPP work around the RCT DB Benefit Limit (1/9 the money purchase limit). One of the reasons for the MPU’s associated with the DB Plan is to create a de facto SERP to offer an earned annual benefit that exceeds the RCT Limit. The DB is considered ‘registered’ and ...
by Protonpilot
Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:01 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Moonlighting while at AC
Replies: 72
Views: 14051

Re: Moonlighting while at AC

I see what you mean here but saying DB doesn't get guaranteed company contributions is a bit misleading. They are required to keep it funded to a certain level. So yes that means they can take holidays on funding but on the flip side if the market ends up in the toilet they are required to cough up...
by Protonpilot
Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:56 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Moonlighting while at AC
Replies: 72
Views: 14051

Re: Moonlighting while at AC

CWIPP is better than nothing but I don't get how people get so excited about it. There are absolutely no guarantees despite any glossy brochure. The plan was started by meat cutters and I'm not sure how it will work out in the long term for a higher pay profession like pilots. Let's just say I'm ha...
by Protonpilot
Tue Nov 26, 2024 1:22 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Moonlighting while at AC
Replies: 72
Views: 14051

Re: Moonlighting while at AC

The DB pension went from pension crisis in to massive over funding in a flick of switch. The government changed the calculation of the valuation of DB pensions December 2020. They introduced new standards for calculating commuted values with changes to the interest rate assumption and the pension c...
by Protonpilot
Tue Nov 26, 2024 7:42 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Moonlighting while at AC
Replies: 72
Views: 14051

Re: Moonlighting while at AC

You do realize junior pilots don't have a DB pension? That is the largest concession there is. Anyone who knows anything about pensions wants a defined benefit pension over a target benefit pension. It's literally in the words - "target" instead of "defined" And not sure how junior pilots benefited...
by Protonpilot
Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:33 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Prospects for a new hire in 2025
Replies: 22
Views: 7374

Re: Prospects for a new hire in 2025

If you look at the current CWIPP benefit formula (1.40/1.75/1.90%) it isn’t that difficult to come up with a reasonable estimate on the back of a napkin. Here is a very rough example: average annual earnings of 275k for 20 years x 0.190 = $104500. It would likely be marginally less due to the reduc...
by Protonpilot
Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:45 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: PBS
Replies: 5
Views: 1349

Re: PBS

That’s actually not correct. Historically, the company released partial blocks, as they were completed. ALPA suspended that practice, about a year ago, in the interests of “unity”, while negotiations were under way. That was the word ALPA relied on then,.. unity. A. 27 was amended within the curren...
by Protonpilot
Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:20 pm
Forum: WestJet
Topic: Why Won't You Come to WestJet?
Replies: 82
Views: 21323

Re: Why Won't You Come to WestJet?

Doesn’t affect much at Jazz. They can fly the RJ out west doing YQR turns or whatever. Can also fly the Q400 since it’s mostly all domestic. Also a very limited number of positions available on the RJ. The problem at AC is any longer flights out west or east tend to cross the US airspace . I suppos...
by Protonpilot
Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: PBS
Replies: 5
Views: 1349

Re: PBS

What’s up with PBS? The “unity” argument, which I once supported, is now a thing of the past. Partial block release agreed to by AC and ALPA, then endorsed by 67% of the pilots.. So, why the delay? All blocks are released at the same time now, it's been this way for over a year. I haven't heard any...
by Protonpilot
Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:40 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: Air Canada Pilot Incentive Bonus
Replies: 124
Views: 20807

Re: Air Canada Pilot Incentive Bonus

First Officers are basically living in poverty in YYZ or YVR. $85,000 in year 1. $90,000 in year 2. Without flying a single hour of overtime. And in year 3 you're on formula pay. Poverty? Not even close. Go have a look at Stats Canada. The average annual wage for the 10 million hourly workers in Ca...
by Protonpilot
Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:33 am
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: 67% yes
Replies: 174
Views: 42668

Re: 67% yes

“2% pay raises until retirement (if you think you're going the next 25 years without a crisis...not to mention the reduced pilot in the cockpit threat that will lead to serious concessions or reduction bids...)” Can’t win with you guys. You’re saying that a 2% average wage increase over 25 years isn...
by Protonpilot
Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:35 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: 67% yes
Replies: 174
Views: 42668

Re: 67% yes

One has to seriously ask the question - since the departure of the AC pilots from CALPA to ACPA over 25 years ago and the subsequent recent return to ALPA - why do they distinguish themselves in the highest degree of internal dysfunction? Notwithstanding the CCAA car wash, the record on normal cour...
by Protonpilot
Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:19 pm
Forum: Air Canada
Topic: 67% yes
Replies: 174
Views: 42668

Re: 67% yes

Increase of $150? Love to see your math on that one. Btw it’s the fact that they took something away to fund a so called increase. Guess you are ok with giving up things that we already used negotiating capital to get. A lot of us aren’t. Looks like we gave up breakfast, lunch, dinner, snack, and t...

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