Not the same group. New MEC executive. 1/2 the NC turned over. Many new status reps. I think about 1/2 or 2/3 of them. This is factually incorrect. MEC Executive comprises of members that were all part of the last world class deal. It was just a game of musical chairs. I assume because they wanted ...

Good point about flat pay because that's where the most heavily concentrated anger is coming from and rightly so. The TA fell far too short in that area so I understand how pissed off that group is. But the FO seniority list in YWG looks like most had recently gone through the same 4 year cycle of ...

Reading some of the posts here, you’d think the rooms would be packed at local council meetings with members demanding change, pushing resolutions, engaging leadership. But that hasn’t been my experience at all. The meetings I’ve attended at YYZ have been sparsely attended. In fact, all the other b...

- Defying Section 107. - Turning unpaid work into a national cause. - Pulling more public support than any aviation worker in history. - Building unity that’s never been stronger. And you call that “no result”? LMAO FanBlade — you’ve lost the plot. No wonder you disappeared for a while. Guess reali...

It's pretty obvious it is just a few angry members who don't like change.

Between passed motions, a MEC and now survey data, it is clear the membership wanted new direction.

Air Canada pilots have the worst scheduling & reserve rules in the industry hands down.

This agreement was nearly entirely about the pay. If you're not happy about that, then there isn't much there. At least we get our schedules earlier now I guess

How much did every pilot lose with this concession then? An avg payout in 2024 was around $15k. Multiply that by 5000 pilots and it makes it a $75 million concession. New wages was around $250 million. So take $75m divided by $250m and you get roughly 30%. 30% of new wages came from money members g...

Again, more insults from the peanut gallery and angry criticisms of the contract. With no mention as to why a recall would benefit the membership. Since it doesn't sound like you're capable of coming up with anything remotely constructive allow me to suggest the following. Instead of playing divisi...

The "logic" was that the profit share was an unknown certainty and the guaranteed pay raises accounted for the occasional profit share. I’m for it. Pay me today on a negotiated scale rather than maybe a bonus once a year based on conditions someone else controls. Good thing you don't negotiate for ...

Well the Execs loved the pilot deal!

Can't believe all those profits that won't be shared after giving away the incentive (bonus) plan

Oops...

Yeah, I’m sure they told Napoleon the same thing when he was exiled in St Helena. Lol Bob False equivalence or a "red herring" Napoleon didn't have a choice. You literally said that in your comment. He was exiled by the British. Secondly, they could have easily just executed him. Are you comparing ...

Are you an Air Canada pilot? Do you not see that a billion in share buybacks is coming off the backs of your contract? The stock is up 45%. It's a staggering number. For reference TSX is up less than 2% over the same period. You pilots need to wake up that you got schooled. Discounting a rise of 45...

Ahh yessss

The great "are Air Canada pilots really in poverty" debate

I wonder if United pilots have these sort of discussions

84% voted yes to a 10 yrs deal to cement us in the bottom of legacy carriers...(8.4 out of 10)

Then we brought in all mighty ALPA

Then we buckled with a historic opportunity

Then we went back to hunting down cellphone deals

I guess we will get em next time?

Dry Guy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:06 pm Caley Wray herself said that if we vote no we will be paid minimum wage. And that's a lady you do NOT question.

Caley Wray Jepsen said we if vote No, call her maybe!

Hilarious...minimum wage...

How dumb do we look?

I can't believe this...but SportingRifle is right...ALPA (the circus that travels from property to property) absolutely did not want a strike No strikes since 2010 and how many collective agreements without any job action since then? 50? They want to bargain. Their strategies are based on the Nation...

Honest questions... Do pilots in Canada think other bargaining outcomes don't have an impact on each other? Pattern Bargaining doesn't exist for pilots in this country? Are CEOs shutting down airlines over pilot wages in this country? Can someone point to where this has ever happened ever? Are pilo...

You guys are tiring, always thinking that those who disagree with you just don’t understand. In that video the pilot group also sent an important message, it is that they will never leave: AC management knows as much as everyone that very few pilots could secure a US visa, and those would be so hig...

I see some hurt buttholes coming out of the wood work

May I suggest putting egos aside and see what a huge gain for AC pilots does for WJ pilots

Lol isn't Bede a WJ pilot? Why is he arguing why AC pilots should get paid LESS??!! There is so much psychology involved with this stuff and while I have no doubt WJ pilots desperately want AC pilots to raise the bar for pattern bargaining, unfortunately there are still egos involved Many WJ pilots...

Quickest way to silent an upset member...throw them a volunteer application Easy princess. Due to the major battles I had with acpa while I actually stood up for myself and the pilots in the past decades, there is zero chance I will be in a room with Brad Ridge, the other staff minions or the other...

Quickest way to silent an upset member...throw them a volunteer application

Remember...the MEC is only going to push as far as they think they can with the pilot group they have If you can't wear a lanyard for them, you think they are going to be comfortable pushing the absolute limits? "Please sacrifice all your time and take personal risks on my behalf but I'm too scared/...

Steep turns, 2 engine non- precision approach, single engine ILS. Speeds , pitch, and power settings all given to you beforehand, all raw data. Pretty basic stuff. (Unless you are one of the few who has spent 2000+ hours in an airplane and managed to avoid acquiring the most basic of flying skills ...

That’s wonderful that management can give themselves millions in bonuses. They are basically saying they will have no problems giving the pilots a proper wage during negotiations. Issue is they are rewarding their metrics of being profitable off the backs of having industry leading cheap pilots ACP...