Lies, Damned lies, Accounting... All lies and hidden money anyway... In the past the Association has tasked a working group to audit the numbers and verify actual payouts accurately. They didn't just flip EBITDAR for EBITDA... Have you written your rep and asked what they do? I assume ALPA is not g...

How has your experience been starting at AC as a commuter? Length of reserve? Costs? Lifestyle issues? Anything else you've felt? I've been commuting out east for a while and I can say a Jr Pilot commuting at Air Canada will be terrible. No long call reserve, still have to pay for commutes plus eve...

So let me get this straight when it’s rep pay, the comparator is ALPA across North America. But when it’s the rest of the contract, suddenly it’s “Canadian standards.” Shouldn’t reps then pattern bargain off the lowest-paid reps too? By the way, isn’t starting pay at AC now roughly what it is at Fla...

Go have a conversation with your SPSC. Ask the "Let's Fucking Get'em" guy? When I saw this live in YYZ I could see the face from the main ALPA guy. We looked liked fools. That MEC group was an embarrassment. Then the leadership flopped. Then they got those displacements so they can enjoy their 95 h...

[ For the record, I do welcome any opportunity to give Mikey a chop to the throat. :lol: Some career advice for you…I would take down that post ASAP. Google the SkyRegional pilot who included similar comments in an email. Or the AC pilot who posted about Gaza last year. You’re not as anonymous as y...

Why is there an election in YVR?

Winnipeg has 2 of 10 votes on MEC or 20% of total

They are 50 of 5500 pilots so 0.9% of total

dEmOcRAcy

How many reps does Winnipeg have versus other bases? YVR & YUL have the same amount of voting reps as YWG YUL & YVR have a thousand plus members so 20 times plus as many but somehow have the same number of votes. So when the World Ass Contract was sent to the membership, YWG armed with a proxy had ...

Now that it's done, it's time to move on. But the motions were bullshit and it wasn't 80%. YYZ was something like 47 - 45 on the vote and the Yea vote was mostly made up of proxies. Most of the people actually in the room voted against the motion. If you actually canvassed the membership you will f...

I'd rather see ALPA focus on straight salary gains going forward. I'm happier with money in the bank every month. You want ALPA focused on giving out profit sharing concessions. Apparently you don't like Delta's contract or their 10% bonus they just got. Air Canada pilots just gave up $75 million. ...

For one thing WJ vacation credit is 4.5 hrs vs whatever garbage AC gets in 2033 You are either intentionally misleading or not aware how it works. WJ vacation week is 5 days @4.5 credit per=22.5 per vacation week AC 25/26 vacation is 7 days @2:55 per=20.42 per vacation week 26/27 is 7@3:15=22.75 pe...

Then step up and do it. If the 10 of you loudmouths would step up and stop keyboard warrioring you could be ALPA executives by now Where's the link to upload your application? There are calls to serve that come out anytime an elected position opens up. Or they are often asking for help during membe...

ULCLC

Ultra Low Cost Legacy Carrier

In line with the pilot contract

CWIPP is better than nothing but I don't get how people get so excited about it. There are absolutely no guarantees despite any glossy brochure. The plan was started by meat cutters and I'm not sure how it will work out in the long term for a higher pay profession like pilots. Let's just say I'm hap...

Management is definitely profiting off the back of this deal and the pilots!

Hear Rousseau today at Q3 results?

He couldn't stop bragging about this new deal with the pilots!!

This is exactly the attitude I was referencing. Air Canada shills are shameless! Pay less than Flair for new hires...who cares! They are just cannon fodder...but UnItY or something I keep waiting for someone to mention this but no-one has. I guess I'll be the one. Flair pays more than Air Canada do...

Look at what AC pays...that should tell you what they think of you...

And what their union thinks as well...enjoy long term short call reserve...and the most unproductive contract in the world...

IUEC Elevator Union 120K a year + bennies + pension. Ya, but that job really has its ups and downs.... :lol: As for the AC TA - the executive summary provides more questions than answers for me. While there is a duty of fair representation owed to all members, the advertising and demographics reall...

ALPA main goal wasn’t to get massive gains, it was to avoid paying strike pay. Union brass get bonuses the fatter their bank accounts are. I’m not surprised they settled around the rumoured 40pct gains - you jump past WS and have some gains and get to do this again in 4 years. I don’t think anyone ...

Makes you appreciate our union leadership who are constantly battling for displacements that the company can deny thanks to the great ACPA contract Sacrificing their time for the pilot group while we got this shill making videos for the company during historic negotiations. She ain't even wearing a ...

One of the largest factors in cost is stage length

AC's ratio of flying with overseas to other airlines is massive. Even US Airlines. WJ isn't even close

The long stage length of these flights gives AC a huge cost advantage and another reason it can and will pay Air Canada pilots world class rates

Pay didn’t used to affect how well you flew an airplane, but did affect to a large degree how long you stayed in a job. I worked some very poorly paid jobs and learned to fly an airplane pretty damn well. Subsequently the sim ride at AC for both myself and my new hire colleagues was a fun non-event...

No former ACPA reps in YYZ that I could see

Although there were 700 pilots there so hard to keep track...

The MEC flushed the ex VP Flights Ops ACPA CEO

How we had the guy who locked out our pilots during the 1998 strike running the ACPA asylum is beyond me

Regardless, that turd was flushed

All leaders of ALPA are active pilots.

Pilot led, staff supported

Not ex Manager led, shill supported

Air Canada pilots said no to an MOA about 9-12 months ago. No second offer was presented at the table. Different circumstances but still worth mentioning. I haven’t flown with anyone that has regretted voting down that MOA. I think most of us still think of it as a bit insulting. No "No" voter ever...