Competence in any given skill set is commonly charted on a bell curve. On the left are people with lesser abilities, at the top are those with average ability, and on the right those with greatest abilities. In an attempt to perfectly balance gender/race/whatever, when the minority candidate group i...

1 year is 0.03% of 30 years? I didn’t know that. But I dropped out of college to start my business. [/quote] Oh god, I’m an idiot and it looks like I should have stayed an extra year in uni — THREE percent. :rolleyes: And then I went and doubled down on it too…. :oops: In my defense, it’s nice here...

Not everyone has a 30 year career ahead of them at AC. Some people only have 10-15. It's far from .67% of anyone's career even if they stay 30 years. I do get your point. The disparity in pay raise isn't fair, no matter how you slice it. It’s very rarely I fly with a new hire who’s over 30 these da...

That is very misleading. Only a small % of FOs are upgrading in a year. and that will be drying up very quickly moving forward. Of course you’re correct, but the point I’m making is that flat pay doesn’t last long in the grand scheme of things (though I know from first hand experience that it sure ...

First year captains make between 3-4 times what first year FOs make. Pretty obvious who was doing the negotiating. If you guys want a fair deal, these guys need to go. Seriously? Unbelievably short sighted. You will be a first year FO for precisely 365 days of your 30+ year career. That’s 0.03 perc...

8895 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:15 am
I’d challenge you to sell me on going to AC right now instead of staying on the E2 at porter.

Your hats are uuuuuuugly?

Seriously though, I thought the same thing once. Now I can’t imagine working anywhere else. The bullshit isn’t as deep or as smelly as you think it is.

Tell me why a 16 day cap on NB or WB is a good idea for the group. Not sure that it is, in some ways. I’ve been told by smart people that creating blocks within this arbitrary limit causes the computer to melt down and start “unstacking” flying — taking productive stuff from senior bids to give to ...

Junior FOs needed this the most and once again gets @#$!’d by their union and will get fcuk’d again by the senior captains. All that hype for what… I don’t think that’s quite fair. Pretty much all the “senior captains” (of which I am one) I know agree the junior guys should get the most. That’s a h...

I can’t see how this could ever pass. Maybe there’ll be more once we see the full deal, but there’s a shitload of QOL items we all wanted not mentioned in the summary. Deadheading, training out of the block, PBS, the list goes on and on and on. To say nothing of the shocking flat pay debacle — which...

Air Canada offers pilots a 30% raise..... https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/air-canada-offers-pilots-a-30-pay-hike-bloomberg-news-reports/ar-AA1q01nP?ocid=msedgntp&pc=W046&cvid=24452ac29ca04d10ad6ca71470769d36&ei=14 Is that a good deal? If not....how much? No BS about other conditions....how mu...

The only thing I learned from reading this thread is that AC pilots have an irrational obsession with lanyards….? Lol The other thing that is quite obvious (and the main reason I hardly ever pop in here) is that some AC pilots in this forum seemingly have a) an all consuming obsession with the job ...

I'm going to bid the forum farewell for a spell. Good idea - you’re going to give yourself an aneurism or something. Put your phone down, get out of the house, take a few deep breaths, and try to think of ANYTHING other than the airline biz for 30 seconds. Just 30 seconds. There’s a whole world out...

I'm shocked to see the level antagonism here between cabin and flight crew. Has this been going on for a while at AC? From my humble outsider's perspective, it could be detrimental towards a gain for everyone as a whole, but, I'm not at AC, so take it for whatever it's worth. Go hard friends, stand...

The biggest problem AC pilots have always focused on is hourly rates like they are the only thing in a contract which is why pretty much everyone has better QOL than us. I’d personally take 5% for training inside the block and better vacation credit, a few months ago I worked 17 days and had a week...

I heard that unless you have former jet experience, you cant be considered for a WB position on initial hire. Just wondering if anybody knows whether or not this rumour is true? This would seem abit silly, certaintly for those coming from Jazz. Seriously, why in the world is that “silly?” I can sle...

I heard that unless you have former jet experience, you cant be considered for a WB position on initial hire. Just wondering if anybody knows whether or not this rumour is true? This would seem abit silly, certaintly for those coming from Jazz. Seriously, why in the world is that “silly?” I can sle...

The idea we are “overpaid, glorified bus drivers” is a little overblown but, infuriatingly, not helped one tiny little bit when passengers got used to seeing pilots from a certain un-named airline doing menial janitorial work grooming the cabin between flights - BIG embarrassment to the rest of us, ...

I'd wear an obviously expensive suit Tells the company you're independently wealthy and can afford the poverty starting wages. Nothing is more important than a visual confirmation you are willing to pay your dues after already paying your dues Just tell them it's always been your dream to be among ...

I'd wear an obviously expensive suit Tells the company you're independently wealthy and can afford the poverty starting wages. Nothing is more important than a visual confirmation you are willing to pay your dues after already paying your dues Just tell them it's always been your dream to be among ...

You may hear a lot of 'complaints' about AC, but remember you are likely hearing from 5% of the pilots who work there. The rest aren't on forums and are quite happy. THIS x 1000 . 95% of the guys I work with are perfectly happy 90% of the time. I guarantee that most of the insane negativity here ar...

Lol... AC has: 24 x 777s 16 x A330s 37 x 787s For a total of 77 widebodies, not including freighters Westjet has what - 5? You should be giving your head a shake for thinking that Westjet is the reason your wages are down Does Westjet blame PAL? Or Buffalo Joe? I mean WJ does fly to Yellowknife. Pr...

1) there are AC pilots who still have some sort of blind cockiness towards the quantifiable fact they are giant losers in the global competition of raising pilot & compensation Yup, we suck compared to lots of places in the world, but it’s hard to expect any big contractual wins when our closest co...

1) there are AC pilots who still have some sort of blind cockiness towards the quantifiable fact they are giant losers in the global competition of raising pilot & compensation Yup, we suck compared to lots of places in the world, but it’s hard to expect any big contractual wins when our closest co...

But lots of Canadians want more services, more spending, more taxes (must be the ones paying the least tax and recipients of the most services). Liberal voters, in other words, who happily elected the least qualified moron to ever hold a public office. And then did it again. This country is screwed.

How could you possibly recommend a move from WJ to Big Red? . Well, when 9 and 10 year FO's are willing to leave the cult because the take-home $$$ at AC's $51,000 (or whatever it is) first year flat-pay isn't a big pay cut... ...why on earth wouldn't you leave????? Our 9 year FO's on the bus can e...