Great move by AC, why purchase a debt laden Transat when a few XLR can replicate its flying for fraction the cost. I see these heavily utilized for the YYZ-YUL rouge 767 flying.

Will all 320 pilots be ETOPs qualified? Or will they play base politics to pass through the next cost-neutral contract.

Record revenue announced today from Cargo ops. Which suckers voted for a 10% pay cut.

Gaining 2% annually on a 10% discounted rate isn’t a gain. But ACPA will sell you as one, and it appears AC pilots are just bad at math.

I’m not seeing the issue in what he said? Your flighties don’t deliver your coffee? He didn’t say they only make coffee. They certainly shouldn’t be paid more than the FO though. The argument we ought to make should be to pay the FOs more and not to force AC to pay the FAs less. This is why the fat...

What is the logic/reasoning behind it? Why would the union vote in favor of it? The logic is it saves the company money. The union argues that you spend the majority of your career at year 12 pay, so that should be their focus. AC is the devil of them all since they pretty much set the standard for...

We had a chance to fix this 4 year pay scale in 2014, however a whopping 84% of the membership were fine with it and locked it in till 2024.

Well to put your conspiracy theories to the test, my PIT course 4 years ago (over 30 in the class) consisted of 2 females, about 5 visible minorities, and 4 francophones. A look through the other new hire groups over the past umpteen years, the majority are white male anglophones. Very true, to say...

been applying for the last 5 years before the pandemic, FO 330/737 at ts, some twin otter pic, not much but anyway never got a call and probably never will. That is odd… given you work for Transat you’re probably a francophone. So you meet pretty much all their requirements. Did you only complete H...

‘Contrary to popular beliefs, pilots are not at the center of these plans’

Where was this line when negotiating 10% off cargo pay. Hypocrites

So why does Project Reroute tout a great relationship with the management and ACPA...what is the point of it? Is it to ACPA-wash the furloughs? Why should furloughs even pay attention to that webinar and trust a word that is being said? Non-response, just change the subject because it's all true. I...

Clearly the market favours AC backing out of the deal given the stock price increase yesterday. Why take on more debt, restrictions and uncertainties in these times. I don’t see the Europeans approving the deal without major concessions, Ben Smith is working hard behind the scenes.

another one, I got lost reading his prose recapping all that's wrong with the covid downturn, and he says that he only wants the position until the end of the current term, what a waste; Don’t write him off, I’ve flown with him. Really intelligent guy whose genuine and not in it for himself. He doe...

another one, I got lost reading his prose recapping all that's wrong with the covid downturn, and he says that he only wants the position until the end of the current term, what a waste; Don’t write him off, I’ve flown with him. Really intelligent guy whose genuine and not in it for himself. He doe...

The most senior Rouge 767 captain was in the 700 seniority range. This is before the fleet was grounded.

Remember rogue wide-body pay rates where taken directly from Transat rates at inception.

Makes sense to start integration at Rouge levels.

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FL-510 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:33 pm I think they will too, but! I would put nothing passed AC management. I don't know the details well enough but I would imagine the ALPA agreement protects pilots in this scenario.

Ac management won’t have a say. It’s Labor law. Seniority will be negotiated via both unions.

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A-Scale (mainline) B-Scale (Rouge) C-Scale (Cargo) Come 2023/2024 negots.... D-Scale for new hires and back to grandfathered rates. We spent the last 6 years bringing B-Scale closer to A-Scale, how much bargaining capital was used up in the best of times? If you're a Junior and voted Yes, then do no...

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Good grief, do you all not see the common factor here? I'll spell it out for you. Its the 10-15% of membership who will never be happy..no matter the circumstance... Saving 100-150 of your colleagues jobs? No, not good enough, we want FedEx or UPS wages.... No one is asking for FedEx/UPS wages, jus...

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Why would anyone in their right mind vote yes to this? How is ACPA gonna "sell it" this time? They should be embarrased for even putting something like this forward to the membership. What a joke. If this is voted down, there should be a non-confidence vote for MM, he needs to go. He clearly does n...

Is there any language at all to stop them from reducing other WB positions when adding these freighter positions? That seems critical to me. We aren't protecting any jobs if that's not there, and worse than that we are trading good positions for worse ones. Cargo in WB aircraft right now is under a...