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Brazilians have close shave in Antarctica

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Brazilian air force plane has accident in Antarctica

A Brazilian air force plane had an accident while landing at Chile's Presidente Eduardo Frei Montalva base in Antarctica, but no one was injured, the Chilean air force said.

The Hercules C-130 experienced the mishap in the morning and efforts are underway to recover the aircraft, provide logistical support and assist the crew and passengers.

The Chilean base is on King George Island in the South Shetland Islands, located some 4,500 kilometers (2,796 miles) from Santiago.

Initial indications are that the Brazilian plane's landing gear may have failed, the Chilean air force said.
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i'm glad nobody was hurt. A little wax should smooth things up..
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Looks like classic white hole conditions.
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Clearly you guys have zero experience operating on a marginally prepared landing strip when things get hairy.
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stef wrote:Looks like classic white hole conditions.
Explain that to me oh, wise one.
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As aviation progresses we learn new things all the time, I never ever experienced a " White hole condition " while flying, how do you handle such a condition?
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Is Borek going to assist in the recovery. They easily have the most experience in salvage out of that environment
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Maybe he meant "white out" conditions. That's a real thing, isn't it?

But let's jump all over him anyway. It's more fun.
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Definitely white hole, it's a common occurrence with the Brazilians when dealing with those strips. It's when everything you see is all bleached out and you can't tell what's what. Worse when combined with tainted fuel. Last guy that happened too, it just wreckedum.
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DanWEC wrote:Definitely white hole, it's a common occurrence with the Brazilians when dealing with those strips. It's when everything you see is all bleached out and you can't tell what's what. Worse when combined with tainted fuel. Last guy that happened too, it just wreckedum.
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Tough crowd tonight. :)
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Seriously though, what do they use for contrast? Before they put down all the oil, from that camera angle it looked pretty nasty.
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In general aviation, a white hole is a hypothetical region of a flightpath which cannot be entered from the outside, although matter and light can escape from it. In this sense, it is the reverse of a black hole, which can only be entered from the outside, from which nothing, including light, can escape.
Those Brazilian strips can be interesting.. Never seen a Chilean one. I wonder how they are prepared?
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hot wax.

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I'm not qualified to second guess a military Herc crew.
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Changes in Latitudes wrote:Clearly you guys have zero experience operating on a marginally prepared landing strip when things get hairy.
Who said it was marginally prepared?

It's always nasty in Marsh. But it is a prepared runway. There are buildings around and rocks and even a little Russian church up on the hill. Initial reports are that the landing gear failed so maybe that's just it. They're just lucky they stopped on the runway. On one end is a cliff and the sea. On the other is the base.

I've never heard of the term "white hole" either, but I can guess that what stef was referring to was flat light and little to no contrast. Something like dealing with glassy water. However, with glassy water, you normally have miles of lake to use at your disposal, whereas with a runway or skiway, you only have so much room. Where flat light can be especially dangerous is landing on the ice plateau or ice shelf or sea ice with an overcast cloud layer. You literally have no idea how high you are and it's very difficult to determine what the surface conditions are like. This problem can arise on unmarked skiways as well. This crew would certainly have had something to look at on approach which also leads me to believe it was a landing gear malfunction. But I guess only they really know.
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Just another canuck wrote:
Changes in Latitudes wrote:Clearly you guys have zero experience operating on a marginally prepared landing strip when things get hairy.
Who said it was marginally prepared?
Whooosh..... :lol:
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[/quote]Whooosh..... :lol:[/quote]

x2 :smt040
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Don't confuse glassy with glistening. Also I'm very glad nobody's mentioned penetration speed yet.
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Maybe it was this guy's first time around and he put it in too early?
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