Swedish CRJ-200 Cargo Crash Norway
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Swedish CRJ-200 Cargo Crash Norway
CRJ-200 cargo aircraft declared emergency and then disappeared from RADAR.
http://avherald.com/h?article=4920a18a&opt=4096
http://avherald.com/h?article=4920a18a&opt=4096
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Good god... Nothing left of it at all.
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The pictures I saw sadly won't have a black box recoverable, or at least I'd be amazed if they could find anything.
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Holy crap there is nothing left of it. I hope the emergency call gives them some strong clues to what happened otherwise I don't think there is much left to inspect.
Let the speculation games begin.
Let the speculation games begin.
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There isn't even enough left to speculate about.arctic_slim wrote:
Let the speculation games begin.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself
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I was wondering how they found it up there in the 66+ degree north winter dark of 3:00am.
Video:
http://www.nrk.no/nordland/norske-f-16- ... 1.12739279
Stating that they have found portions of data recorder(s):
http://www.nrk.no/nordland/kan-ha-funne ... 1.12741407
Video:
http://www.nrk.no/nordland/norske-f-16- ... 1.12739279
Stating that they have found portions of data recorder(s):
http://www.nrk.no/nordland/kan-ha-funne ... 1.12741407
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No let's not. Speculation on the death in an instant of 2 of our colleagues is not a game. The cause of this tragedy needs to be found. Public speculation has nothing to add.arctic_slim wrote:Holy crap there is nothing left of it. I hope the emergency call gives them some strong clues to what happened otherwise I don't think there is much left to inspect.
Let the speculation games begin.
Deepest sympathy to the pilots and to their loved ones.
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I'm certainly curious what was said during the MAYDAY call???
Only news is Flight Data Recorder has been recovered, it is badly damaged - but complete,
parts of the Cockpit Voice Recorder have been recovered but missing memory module.
Only news is Flight Data Recorder has been recovered, it is badly damaged - but complete,
parts of the Cockpit Voice Recorder have been recovered but missing memory module.
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I am absolutely amazed they could find anything, let's hope they can get some data off it to hopefully get answers.
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Deep snow at a crash site like this can be a bit deceptive. There are probably more parts scattered around than you can see.
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I thought the same thing about a similar accident on a Scat Airlines CRJ report on Avherald.Good god... Nothing left of it at all.
http://avherald.com/h?article=45ce98f4/0000&opt=0
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Re: Swedish CRJ-200 Cargo Crash Norway
Of course it's sad to lose colleagues, that's a given. But as we have seen in the past, lots of speculation happens after every accident. I look forward to the discussions on what might have happened.rxl wrote:No let's not. Speculation on the death in an instant of 2 of our colleagues is not a game. The cause of this tragedy needs to be found. Public speculation has nothing to add.arctic_slim wrote:Holy crap there is nothing left of it. I hope the emergency call gives them some strong clues to what happened otherwise I don't think there is much left to inspect.
Let the speculation games begin.
Deepest sympathy to the pilots and to their loved ones.
Interesting to see the video of the crash site using IR, it stands out significantly from the surrounding snow.
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Update:
On Jan 26th 2016 the SHK reported that the investigation managed to read out both cockpit voice and flight data recorder, the CVR does contain the talks of the crew during the accident flight. The investigation is currently analysing and validating the recordings. A preliminary report is estimated to be released in a week or two.
On Jan 26th 2016 the SHK reported that the investigation managed to read out both cockpit voice and flight data recorder, the CVR does contain the talks of the crew during the accident flight. The investigation is currently analysing and validating the recordings. A preliminary report is estimated to be released in a week or two.
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I think that's the first accident ever at that airline. Hope they find what caused such an insane descent rate.
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The Swedish accident board has published an interim status report in English here:
http://www.havkom.se/assets/reports/SRL-2016_01e.pdf
http://www.havkom.se/assets/reports/SRL-2016_01e.pdf
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Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?
If you read the transcript (at the end) it gets really freaky. I have the impression they both knew exactly what was going on, and yet couldn't do anything about it.
If you read the transcript (at the end) it gets really freaky. I have the impression they both knew exactly what was going on, and yet couldn't do anything about it.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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I don't normally like partaking or speculating in such threads but -1G might do that in a standard turbine engine.digits_ wrote:Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?
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looking at the FDR print out his "WHAT!" expression seems to have coincided with the pitch changing. Then the AP disconnects.
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Very likely because of the negative g.old_man wrote:I don't normally like partaking or speculating in such threads but -1G might do that in a standard turbine engine.digits_ wrote:Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?
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Would that also affect the engine operation or just the indication ?fanspeed wrote:Very likely because of the negative g.old_man wrote:I don't normally like partaking or speculating in such threads but -1G might do that in a standard turbine engine.digits_ wrote:Low oil engine pressure on both engines ?
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship