It's time to buzz the tower
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Re: It's time to buzz the tower
Around 2004 as I recall.
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I'd have guess pre 2001, but I guess Schiphol is a half a world away from New York.
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You weren't ferrying a PBY by chance, were you?
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Yes it was a PBY but I was not ferrying in it was based in Holland, that was why they asked for the low pass, so they could have a closer look at it.
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That PBY is still flying over there, it is registered in Holland PH-PBY.
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I've had a tower controller chirp me for not getting close enough to the tower. LOL!Cat Driver wrote:I have had the tower operators ask for a low pass by their tower on several occasions, in fact one day both towers at Schiphol asked for a pass, so I got to do two in one after the other.
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I think it was awesome.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself
Re: It's time to buzz the tower
Dangerous? Hardly
Unprofessional? Certainly.
Unless said captain previously obtained the permission of not just the tower but more importantly the owner of the aircraft he was being paid to fly responsibly, and most importantly the permission of every passenger and crew on board who likely didn’t sign up for low passes around the tower.
This was a deliberate choice, not something caused by circumstances.
Unprofessional? Certainly.
Unless said captain previously obtained the permission of not just the tower but more importantly the owner of the aircraft he was being paid to fly responsibly, and most importantly the permission of every passenger and crew on board who likely didn’t sign up for low passes around the tower.
This was a deliberate choice, not something caused by circumstances.
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The pilot made a decision to go around, for whatever reason. Maybe his approach wasn't stabilized. Who are we to judge?
That said, who does a low pass with the gear down? Clean that bad boy up and bring it in at 0.8Vne. They pulled his license because he half-assed a perfectly reasonable overhead break opportunity.
That said, who does a low pass with the gear down? Clean that bad boy up and bring it in at 0.8Vne. They pulled his license because he half-assed a perfectly reasonable overhead break opportunity.
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Coulda been. Boeing did build a bunch of them.GyvAir wrote:Kinda figured it wasn't a Boeing
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haha.. as I was typing that, I thought momentarily about checking who actually built them.lownslow wrote:Coulda been. Boeing did build a bunch of them.GyvAir wrote:Kinda figured it wasn't a Boeing
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Yeah, I’d love to witness that tap dance in front of the authorities. There is a go-around procedure Airbus pilots are trained to do...and that wasn’t it. The PIC could only get away with the “I was only doing a go-around” defence by admitting gross incompetence in aircraft handling. Tough choice when people with your licence in their hands are staring at you waiting for an answer.AirFrame wrote:The pilot made a decision to go around, for whatever reason. Maybe his approach wasn't stabilized. Who are we to judge?
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Plus 1Rockie wrote:Yeah, I’d love to witness that tap dance in front of the authorities. There is a go-around procedure Airbus pilots are trained to do...and that wasn’t it. The PIC could only get away with the “I was only doing a go-around” defence by admitting gross incompetence in aircraft handling. Tough choice when people with your licence in their hands are staring at you waiting for an answer.AirFrame wrote:The pilot made a decision to go around, for whatever reason. Maybe his approach wasn't stabilized. Who are we to judge?
I can't believe some of you are defending this Idiot. Ok i will agree it was no all that unsafe. Regardless when you have 200 passengers in the back looking out the window expecting to land, then the aircraft powers up and makes a turn call it 10 degrees or 20 I really don't care. The point is there was no need for this and i am sure passengers were spooked by it. If the tower asked this guy to do this he should have told them to stuff that request were the sun don't shine.
Cat how many passengers did you have in the back when you did low and overs. Were they aware and agreed you could do this.
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Cat how many passengers did you have in the back when you did low and overs. Were they aware and agreed you could do this.
I never had passengers on board when doing anything out of the ordinary.
My comments were to point out the danger involved was about zero.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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I guess you completely missed the point then. AgainCat Driver wrote:Cat how many passengers did you have in the back when you did low and overs. Were they aware and agreed you could do this.
I never had passengers on board when doing anything out of the ordinary.
My comments were to point out the danger involved was about zero.
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Cat Driver wrote:Cat how many passengers did you have in the back when you did low and overs. Were they aware and agreed you could do this.
I never had passengers on board when doing anything out of the ordinary.
My comments were to point out the danger involved was about zero.
My point exactly. You never had passengers on board. If you did i am sure you would have consulted with them and had total agreement before doing anything. So why defend some idiot that had 200 people on board. As stated in my earlier post anything other then landing is out of the ordinary and spooks people. There is no doubt most people in the back would have been scared when the aircraft powered up and turned left at a low altitude.
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Where did I defend the crew?
What I am saying is claiming it was dangerous is over reaction.
What I am saying is claiming it was dangerous is over reaction.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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No I did not miss the point.I guess you completely missed the point then. Again
My comments are directed at over reaction to the danger involved in the video.
You claim it was TOTALLY reckless.
My opinion is it was not reckless as in dangerous.TOTALLY reckless for an airline pilot to have a “watch this” moment. Anytime. Anywhere. Maybe that shit flies where you work. Totally out of line where I do.
However you are entitled to your opinion just like I am.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.