Cycling the gear may or may not be a good idea

[pelmet]

Good idea.....

"C-FDSN, an Airbus 320-200 aircraft operated by Air Canada, was conducting flight ACA551 from Los Angeles Intl, CA (KLAX) to Vancouver Intl, BC (CYVR) with 5 crew members and 131 passengers on board. Shortly after the departure from KLAX, the landing gear doors would not close after the selection of landing gear up. The flight crew recycled the landing gear and this time, all indications were normal. The flight continued to destination without further incident."


Not so good idea......

"C-GVZM, a privately registered Beech A36 aircraft, was conducting a flight from Saskatoon/John G. Diefenbaker Intl, SK (CYXE) to Fargo/Hector Intl, ND (KFAR). During landing gear retraction after the departure from CYXE, the pilot noticed a pulse input to the rudder pedals. The landing gear was cycled with the same result. After levelling off at cruise altitude, the landing gear was cycled a third time. The same rudder pedal pulse was noted and the landing gear transit light remained illuminated. The landing gear was selected down, however the nose gear down-andlocked indicator did not illuminate. The pilot then noted that the tow bar was not present in the aircraft. The flight returned to CYXE where, during a fly past, ATC confirmed that the tow bar was still attached. The pilot declared an emergency and the subsequent landing was performed without further incident. An inspection revealed damage to the nose landing gear down-lock indication bracket."

[av8ts]

Any abnormal gear indication...QRH

[Zaibatsu]

Not likely going to be a QRH for a Bonanza.

Also, lots of things aren’t in the QRH or even AFM. They require systems knowledge and the passing on of experience.

For example, on the older Beechcraft with mechanical gear, I’d put it down and leave it down. You snap or damage a chain or gearbox it’s game over.

Another example. Gear not indicating down on a King Air with hydraulic gear. If the handle light isn’t on, and the gear horn doesn’t go on with full flaps, your gear is down and locked.

[goingnowherefast]

A320 probably has more guidance from the manufacturer regarding abnormal situations than a 60s era retractable single.

[confusedalot]

Good idea.....

"C-FDSN, an Airbus 320-200 aircraft operated by Air Canada, was conducting flight ACA551 from Los Angeles Intl, CA (KLAX) to Vancouver Intl, BC (CYVR) with 5 crew members and 131 passengers on board. Shortly after the departure from KLAX, the landing gear doors would not close after the selection of landing gear up. The flight crew recycled the landing gear and this time, all indications were normal. The flight continued to destination without further incident."


Not so good idea......

"C-GVZM, a privately registered Beech A36 aircraft, was conducting a flight from Saskatoon/John G. Diefenbaker Intl, SK (CYXE) to Fargo/Hector Intl, ND (KFAR). During landing gear retraction after the departure from CYXE, the pilot noticed a pulse input to the rudder pedals. The landing gear was cycled with the same result. After levelling off at cruise altitude, the landing gear was cycled a third time. The same rudder pedal pulse was noted and the landing gear transit light remained illuminated. The landing gear was selected down, however the nose gear down-andlocked indicator did not illuminate. The pilot then noted that the tow bar was not present in the aircraft. The flight returned to CYXE where, during a fly past, ATC confirmed that the tow bar was still attached. The pilot declared an emergency and the subsequent landing was performed without further incident. An inspection revealed damage to the nose landing gear down-lock indication bracket."

Man, I am old and now irrelevant in the big scheme of operating airplanes. That sort of lack of situational awareness would exclude a person from getting close to an airplane.

So WTF has happened? Even an old and irrelevant person like me would not do something like that.


The avcanada website is actually entertaining. As an average person of average intelligence, you know, the basic stuff, completely confused when I read stuff like this. No secret why I chose a confusedalot handle. Can't figure out why some people do what they do.