Who has the right of way when taxiing

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Who has the right of way when taxiing

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"C-GAQL, an Airbus 319-100 aircraft operated by Air Canada, was conducting flight ACA585 from Newark/Liberty Intl, NJ (KEWR) to Calgary Intl, AB (CYYC) with 5 crew members and 107 passengers on board. During the taxi segment for a departure off Runway 22R at KEWR, the flight crew was authorized via Taxiways Alpha, Sierra, and to hold short of Yankee for an intersection departure at Whiskey. While approaching Taxiway Kilo on Sierra, the flight crew noticed a Boeing 757 aircraft operated by United Airlines coming from their left, and had to apply brakes to give way as the B757 was not stopping. The closest distance between the two aircraft was estimated to be approximately 80 feet. ATC was queried about the incident, and responded by asking the flight crew to contact Clearance for a change of routing. The flight carried on to destination without further incident."

Had the same thing about two weeks ago in a light twin down on Long Island. Taxiing to runway 19 from the official run-up area and here comes a 172 from an angle at my 4:30 position and he ain't slowing down from his fairly quick pace so I stopped. Then he blocked the entrance to the runway for his run-up with me paying three dollars a minute for the aircraft. Instructor knows the pilot and says that he is just like that.

But it does make me wonder who had the right of way? Not sure actually, maybe no one does. I guess sometimes ATC is busy or just figures that we can figure it out. I don't know if I would forward something like this to the safety board but the AC guys definitely did the right thing.

Who does have the right of way on the ground? I know landing aircraft exiting the runway should be given priority.
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Re: Who has the right of way when taxiing

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Same as in the air: the aircraft on the right, has the right.

If the other dude was approaching you from the right he had right of way. (He still sounds like a douche, though.)
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"Who does have the right of way on the ground? "

I do.

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Pro tip:
Blocking the runway when doing your extensive run - up makes you a knob. Get out of the way.

Easily as bad as "ACTPA"
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why is that a “pro” tip?
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photofly wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:05 pm Same as in the air: the aircraft on the right, has the right.

If the other dude was approaching you from the right he had right of way.
I have to admit that I thought that the right of way rules applied to the air only. I don't disbelieve you but is there anything written in the CAR's/FAR's that specifically mentions that the right of way rules apply on the ground as well?

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Nothing mentions on the ground, but the right of way rules don't specify "in the air" either. They say that "When two aircraft are converging at approximately the same altitude, the pilot-in-command of the aircraft that has the other on its right shall give way..."

If you're both taxiing on the ramp I'd say for sure you were both "at approximately the same altitude" :-)

Note: I guess that means if you're in a powered aircraft you should give way to taxiing gliders and balloons too :=D
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Basic airmanship / common sense. Slow down, use radio, ask ATC, etc. Not really rocket science. Unfortunately many people lack basic airmanship and common sense!
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photofly wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:58 pm why is that a “pro” tip?
Need to recognize tongue in cheek. It's a Twitter term
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You use Twitter!?
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photofly wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:35 pm You use Twitter!?
I thought everyone did
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photofly wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:35 pm You use Twitter!?
It's his Trump card...
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Re: Who has the right of way when taxiing

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If it's a controlled surface, ATC dictates who has right of way. If you're a dead tie with someone else and you haven't been instructed to hold short/give way or been told the other aircraft is giving way to you, it's a good idea to proceed with caution and/or clarify with ATC.
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