Plane with 2 aboard missing between Chilliwack and Edmonton

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Re: Plane with 2 aboard missing between Chilliwack and Edmonton

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CpnCrunch wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:55 am...And just because they don't have to provide conflict resolution for VFR to VFR traffic in class C doesn't mean they don't. Generally they will...
True, they will... Usually. The catch is that they don't *have* to, and when it gets busy, VFR traffic is the first to get ignored. This isn't usually a problem, but what it does is reinforce the (incorrect) assumption that they are watching out for you at all times.
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Re: Plane with 2 aboard missing between Chilliwack and Edmonton

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AirFrame wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:47 am My SPOT runs every time I fly, broadcasts every 5 minutes, and is posted to a website live. That can't be done without a cost. If Flightaware was doing that for every VFR ADS-B aircraft, it wouldn't surprise me if their costs go up... Someone has to pay them.
Actually, it does. Or at least it can. I fly VFR all the time, and when I sign in (free account), it gives me access to "position only" flights. All my flights have position data recorded by them, sent by ADS-B ground stations feeding Flightaware, about once every 20 seconds (a lot more frequent than every 5 minutes). If I get flight following (which I usually do on longer cross countries), it also shows my position as resolved by ATC radar if I'm in an area without ADS-B ground station coverage. If you're not seeing VFR ADS-B flight information on Flightaware, you probably just have to turn on "position only" flight viewing. From what I can see, the only thing missing as opposed to an IFR flight is it doesn't know your flight plan.
AirFrame wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:47 am I don't know if it's part of that project or not, but there is a project to build ADS-B ground stations based on the Stratux hardware... Shorter range (30-70 mi) but with a few distributed around metro areas and some points along major routes we could grow a system as useful as the US one.
Now, if this is a plan to "emulate" the US traffic and weather uplink in Canada that would be a really cool idea, and I'd definitely be interested in contributing. Do you have a name for the project?

Though I imagine there might be some hurdles - collecting ADS-B out data from aircraft is one thing with receive-only hardware - to transmit on the UAT uplink frequency would probably require station licenses, etc.
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Re: Plane with 2 aboard missing between Chilliwack and Edmonton

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Its very sad when these episodes happen .
With modern technology it shouldnt happen.

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Real time tracking .

Condolences to all effected ..
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Re: Plane with 2 aboard missing between Chilliwack and Edmonton

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"C-GFPK, a privately registered Van’s RV 6 A aircraft, was conducting a flight from Edmonton/Parkland (CPL6), AB to Chilliwack (CYCW), BC with 2 persons on board. The aircraft departed CPL6 at 10:03 Mountain Time (MT) with a flight planned route from CPL6 to Hinton/Jasper-Hinton (CEC4), AB, Valemount (CAH4), BC, Kamloops (CYKA), BC, and finally CYCW. The last known position was calculated using a cellular phone location that was received at 12:29 Pacific Time (PT) in the vicinity of Blue River (CYCP), BC. The aircraft had approximately 4 hours of fuel onboard. The 121.5 MHz ELT did not transmit a signal. The aircraft was reported overdue at the destination airport. A search was initiated, and was discontinued by the Joint Rescue Coordination Centre (JRCC) after seven days. The aircraft's location remains unknown at this time"
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Re: Plane with 2 aboard missing between Chilliwack and Edmonton

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pelmet wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:40 am... The last known position was calculated using a cellular phone location that was received at 12:29 Pacific Time (PT) in the vicinity of Blue River (CYCP), BC. ...
That's a little misleading. They didn't get a cell phone *location*, they received a ping from a cell phone tower. Which means that a cell phone tower in the vincinity of Blue River received a check-in from the phone, which would put it somewhere within range of that tower. That could be a rather large circle. The towers don't receive a lat/long from the phone.

Sadly, that airplane now is lost at least until the spring thaw.
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