I don't recall ever doing it.
Nothing will happen unless you are in a condition where TOGA mode has armed.
Starting to look like inadvertent TOGA mode selection and a reaction to Somatogravic Illusion.
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I don't recall ever doing it.
There is a limit in any given aircraft, to the amount of abuse that it will tolerate , before it exacts it's revenge.
According to my inside sources, this is pretty much correct. They had speedbrakes out for descent and the 767 has a known burble caused by this that was misinterpreted as a stall. Toga pushed while captain not looking which initiated a climb and lots of thrust. The FO started pushing nose down too much which was opposed by the captain.jpilot77 wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 11:41 am Looks like inadvertent TOGA activation and the FO thinking they were about to stall. He then pushed to a 40 degree nose down attitude. The captain yanked so hard back on his control column that it disconnected from the elevators. Once they were below the cloud deck the FO tried to recover but it was too late. Also nobody had retarded the thrust levers either so with the nose down attitude the speed was enormous. There’s a lot of breakdown of said event over at Pprune.
Not when the system is flawed and people these days are hired in order to meet some sort of “diversity” quota instead of being hired based on their credentials and ability.AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
Ding ding ding ! That’s it right there. The elephant in the room.PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:58 amNot when the system is flawed and people these days are hired in order to meet some sort of “diversity” quota instead of being hired based on their credentials and ability.AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
Not to hijack, but it's related--The MAX (and Airbus to an extent) software was written exactly for this purpose. Vibrant and diverse people who can neither fly attitude nor figure out which mode the aircraft is in. That's the future of aviation, unfortunately.daedalusx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:52 amDing ding ding ! That’s it right there. The elephant in the room.PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:58 amNot when the system is flawed and people these days are hired in order to meet some sort of “diversity” quota instead of being hired based on their credentials and ability.AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
Which remind me about this thread running on Av Canada a few months ago, about what to do when you get to fly with somebody that incompetent.AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
Which remind me about this thread running on Av Canada a few months ago, about what to do when you get to fly with somebody that incompetent.AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
Probably only because Atlas didn't want to pay for better talent. I don't see how your "diversity" agenda plays in this but you come off sounding like a racist bigot.PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:58 amNot when the system is flawed and people these days are hired in order to meet some sort of “diversity” quota instead of being hired based on their credentials and ability.AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
Indeed. With this individual’s checkered past and a demonstrated ability not to meet training standards with past employers, that would certainly follow him as he moved around. Not that I know much on large aircraft operations be they airlines or cargo haulers but was flabbergasted such a person was able to slip through the training cracks undetected until sadly......AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
Old fella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:52 amIndeed. With this individual’s checkered past and a demonstrated ability not to meet training standards with past employers, that would certainly follow him as he moved around. Not that I know much on large aircraft operations be they airlines or cargo haulers but was flabbergasted such a person was able to slip through the training cracks undetected until sadly......AirportCoffee wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:39 am Yikes. You would think the system would catch up to him sooner or later with all of those failures
The reason he got through is answered in your own questions. If you know anything about any industry down south, aviation included, you'll understand that diversity drives the wages which drives the training programs. Airlines like Atlas force these guys through because they know he won't bother them about contract obligations, bonuses, pensions, etc. Cheaper to run him through the sim 6 more times and give him copious amounts of OE than to make contracts with competent people. If anyone has the diversity agenda, it's the industry.
What about the hiring process?goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:24 am I've seen white guys shoved through line checks too. Race doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.