Caravan hit Ice on approach

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pelmet
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Caravan hit Ice on approach

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Happened in daytime in early March. Are there Papi's on this runway?

"C-FAFV, a Cessna 208B aircraft operated by Amik Aviation, was conducting a VFR flight from
Winnipeg/St. Andrews (CYAV), MB to Little Grand Rapids (CZGR), MB with 1 pilot and 6
passengers on board. During the final approach for Runway 36 at CZGR, the aircraft collided with
the frozen surface of Family Lake, approximately 0.75 nautical mile south of the threshold of
Runway 36. The pilot and passengers egressed the aircraft, and were transported to the Little
Grand Rapids nursing station for evaluation. The pilot suffered minor injuries. The aircraft
sustained substantial damage."
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Re: Caravan hit Ice on approach

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There are PAPIs at both ends.
36 slopes downward quite a bit, with the threshold on a bit of a cliff. There are hydro poles just beyond the runway whose tops are below the landing surface elevation. CFS says 1.63% slope between threshold of 36 and midpoint.
Following a proper "sight" picture on approach, most pilots would be too high because of the slope. To hit the ice, one would have had to practically lose sight of the entire runway.
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Re: Caravan hit Ice on approach

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Was it a VFR flight or a "VFR" flight?
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Re: Caravan hit Ice on approach

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If you can’t go IFR, go VFR! :roll:

Just OBS the runway heading and descend at half your ground speed. :roll:

What could possibly go wrong :bear:
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Re: Caravan hit Ice on approach

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daedalusx wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:30 pm If you can’t go IFR, go VFR! :roll:

Just OBS the runway heading and descend at half your ground speed. :roll:

What could possibly go wrong :bear:
Well... you need your distance back from the field and a 1 in 3 decent profile first. :lol:

Don’t they teach this in “how to McGyver a GPS approach” anymore?
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Re: Caravan hit Ice on approach

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Might have been taking artistic licence with the VFR part. Luckily nobody died. There’s a lesson here for those of you who GARA.
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Re: Caravan hit Ice on approach

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Most of you are probably too young, but...
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“In Soviet Russia, ice gets taken out by Caravan!”
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