King Air at Gillam, MB

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Plane down

Post by sunk » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:13 pm

King Air crashed in Gillam. All okay. Was a medi vac aircraft from Nunavut to Winnipeg.
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Re: Plane down

Post by digits_ » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:17 pm

What happened? Was it a planned fuel stop in Gillam?
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Re: Plane down

Post by Roadrunnersmother » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:01 pm

Hard landing maybe, notam says disabled aircraft, runway closed till 5z. Not likely a crash, tsb wouldn't allow a/c be moved that fast.
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Re: Plane down

Post by sunk » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:10 pm

Duel engine failure, landed short of runway on the ice and hit the shoreline. Knocked the gear off and more.
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Re: Plane down

Post by sunk » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:12 pm

Duel engine failure. Landed short of the runway on the ice. Continued on hitting the rock berm and then stopped on the runway.
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Re: Plane down

Post by FlyGy » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:16 pm

And no injuries? That's great news. Patient on board?
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Re: Plane down

Post by RadicalRadial » Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:37 pm

sunk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:13 pm
King Air crashed in Gillam. All okay. Was a medi vac aircraft from Nunavut to Winnipeg.
I thought it was around 6pm that this occured. How did you get that info so quick? Assuming you weren't in the airplane...
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Re: Plane down

Post by 703doge » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:35 am

RadicalRadial wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:37 pm
sunk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:13 pm
King Air crashed in Gillam. All okay. Was a medi vac aircraft from Nunavut to Winnipeg.
I thought it was around 6pm that this occured. How did you get that info so quick? Assuming you weren't in the airplane...
Lots of people on the centre freq at that time of day, so...
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Re: Plane down

Post by digits_ » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:07 am

This is going to affect someone's RFP :twisted:
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Re: Plane down

Post by trey kule » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 am

Whats RFP stand for?
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Re: Plane down

Post by 703doge » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:24 am

trey kule wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 am
Whats RFP stand for?
Really f*cked plane, apparently
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Re: Plane down

Post by digits_ » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:31 am

trey kule wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 am
Whats RFP stand for?
Sorry, reference to the Manitoba privatization. Stands for Request For Proposals. The government is getting pitched by a bunch of medevac operators to get the province wide contract.

Crashing a plane probably doesn't look good for that, but on the other hand, crashing one without anyone getting hurt is pretty impressive.

Which company was operating the plane?
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Re: Plane down

Post by FlyGy » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:34 am

trey kule wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 am
Whats RFP stand for?
Request For Proposals. The air ambulance service in Nunavut is contracted to Keewatin and is up for renewal in 2022. Standard Govt. procedure is to request proposals from interested agencies before settling on one that will provide services.
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Re: Plane down

Post by RadicalRadial » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:04 am

703doge wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:35 am
RadicalRadial wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:37 pm
sunk wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:13 pm
King Air crashed in Gillam. All okay. Was a medi vac aircraft from Nunavut to Winnipeg.
I thought it was around 6pm that this occured. How did you get that info so quick? Assuming you weren't in the airplane...
Lots of people on the centre freq at that time of day, so...
How about you read the other comments from said poster...
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Re: Plane down

Post by corethatthermal » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:07 am

Just like A/C Halifax,,, A hard landing---on the runway
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Re: Plane down

Post by jpilot77 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:12 am

Turbine dual engine failure or ran out of gas?
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Re: Plane down

Post by mmm..bacon » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:00 pm

Three major possibilities for a dual failure...
1.)mechanical issues with both engines at the same time (Highly unlikely)
2.) Fuel contamination
3.)Too much Air in the tanks.

To be fair to my fellow aviators, I’d be betting on #2.

Correct that it doesn’t look good for a RFP bid..
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by North Shore » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:12 pm

Renamed the thread so the title was a little more informative.


Ps: It’s Medical Evacuation = MedEvac
Medi-vac is some sort of weird vacuum, just like shop-vac :wink:
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by FlyGy » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:45 pm

Good thing the lake was still frozen.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by MUSKEG » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:51 pm

In my opinion If it was fuel contamination it would happen much earlier in the flight. How long is the flight from Iqaluit to Gilliam ? 2 hrs ??
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by digits_ » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:58 pm

MUSKEG wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:51 pm
In my opinion If it was fuel contamination it would happen much earlier in the flight. How long is the flight from Iqaluit to Gilliam ? 2 hrs ??
Not necessarily, could be certain fuel tanks that were affected.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by goingnowherefast » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:22 pm

Except on a King Air, you transfer the aux fuel into the mains as there's room to accept it. By landing time, they'd long since have emptied the aux tanks and be running on the main tanks. Fuel would have been mixed long ago.

It will be interesting to see what the real investigators discover.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by cfall » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:42 pm

mmm..bacon wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:00 pm
Three major possibilities for a dual failure...
1.)mechanical issues with both engines at the same time (Highly unlikely)
2.) Fuel contamination
3.)Too much Air in the tanks.

To be fair to my fellow aviators, I’d be betting on #2.

Correct that it doesn’t look good for a RFP bid..
4th possibility is single engine failure compounded when you shut down the wrong engine
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by Illya Kuryakin » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:43 pm

Ran out of petrol and haven’t got the nads to admit.....oh wait, TSB hasn’t had their say. Check the uplift......,only ONE way I know of to have two PT6’s calve at the same time. Ya gots to feed ‘em.
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Re: King Air at Gillam, MB

Post by C.W.E. » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:53 pm

We must wait for the TSB to figure out why they crashed and that could take years.

In the mean time we must not even think about what could have caused it.
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