Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020

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CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
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Daniel Cooper wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:28 am CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
PIA should be immediately banned from Canadian and international airspace based on this revelation, until they can prove otherwise.Their entire operating certificate is void.Hello Minister Garneau?
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BMLtech wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 am
Daniel Cooper wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:28 am CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
PIA should be immediately banned from Canadian and international airspace based on this revelation, until they can prove otherwise.Their entire operating certificate is void.Hello Minister Garneau?
Ha, you think they're bad, I can't imagine all of the AC pilots with padded logbooks.

All kidding aside, this isn't just a pakistani problem but this really highlights what people will do to get that seat, even if they're not qualified or illiterate.

I don't think you have a case for banning PIA just yet.
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Heliian wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:44 pm
BMLtech wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 am
Daniel Cooper wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:28 am CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
PIA should be immediately banned from Canadian and international airspace based on this revelation, until they can prove otherwise.Their entire operating certificate is void.Hello Minister Garneau?
Ha, you think they're bad, I can't imagine all of the AC pilots with padded logbooks.

All kidding aside, this isn't just a pakistani problem but this really highlights what people will do to get that seat, even if they're not qualified or illiterate.

I don't think you have a case for banning PIA just yet.
This sounds like a little bit more than logbook padding. They are saying that up to a third of their pilots falsified their license exams, rampant cronyism, patronage,etc.This latest accident implies incompetence beyond belief. Who's to say if their wide body operation is any different?
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BBC carrying the story as well

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53182750

Fits with the Culture. No surprise to anyone that has spent time in the region.

Similar issue in India - they grounded a number of people and then it all got swept under the rug. Hopefully this doesn't happen here.

Fully agree that PIA needs to be banned Globally and an independent investigation needs to be conducted. I see they're IOSA certified - shows what a complete joke this is imho.
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BMLtech wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:24 pm
Heliian wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:44 pm
BMLtech wrote: Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 am

PIA should be immediately banned from Canadian and international airspace based on this revelation, until they can prove otherwise.Their entire operating certificate is void.Hello Minister Garneau?
Ha, you think they're bad, I can't imagine all of the AC pilots with padded logbooks.

All kidding aside, this isn't just a pakistani problem but this really highlights what people will do to get that seat, even if they're not qualified or illiterate.

I don't think you have a case for banning PIA just yet.
This sounds like a little bit more than logbook padding. They are saying that up to a third of their pilots falsified their license exams, rampant cronyism, patronage,etc.This latest accident implies incompetence beyond belief. Who's to say if their wide body operation is any different?
You forgot nepotism. As Mr. Jansen said, it's par for the course over there.
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Don’t kid yourself, there’s plenty of nepotism on this side of the planet too. But at least most of our training and qualification programs are legitimate enough to weed out the kind of weakness displayed by the PIA crew.
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^ Weakness? I rather think that you'd have to actively try to F$$k it up that badly!
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