Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
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Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
PIA should be immediately banned from Canadian and international airspace based on this revelation, until they can prove otherwise.Their entire operating certificate is void.Hello Minister Garneau?Daniel Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:28 am CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
Ha, you think they're bad, I can't imagine all of the AC pilots with padded logbooks.BMLtech wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 amPIA should be immediately banned from Canadian and international airspace based on this revelation, until they can prove otherwise.Their entire operating certificate is void.Hello Minister Garneau?Daniel Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:28 am CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
All kidding aside, this isn't just a pakistani problem but this really highlights what people will do to get that seat, even if they're not qualified or illiterate.
I don't think you have a case for banning PIA just yet.
Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
This sounds like a little bit more than logbook padding. They are saying that up to a third of their pilots falsified their license exams, rampant cronyism, patronage,etc.This latest accident implies incompetence beyond belief. Who's to say if their wide body operation is any different?Heliian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:44 pmHa, you think they're bad, I can't imagine all of the AC pilots with padded logbooks.BMLtech wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:34 amPIA should be immediately banned from Canadian and international airspace based on this revelation, until they can prove otherwise.Their entire operating certificate is void.Hello Minister Garneau?Daniel Cooper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:28 am CNN now reporting 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses according to Pakistan's Aviation Minister.
All kidding aside, this isn't just a pakistani problem but this really highlights what people will do to get that seat, even if they're not qualified or illiterate.
I don't think you have a case for banning PIA just yet.
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Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
BBC carrying the story as well
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53182750
Fits with the Culture. No surprise to anyone that has spent time in the region.
Similar issue in India - they grounded a number of people and then it all got swept under the rug. Hopefully this doesn't happen here.
Fully agree that PIA needs to be banned Globally and an independent investigation needs to be conducted. I see they're IOSA certified - shows what a complete joke this is imho.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53182750
Fits with the Culture. No surprise to anyone that has spent time in the region.
Similar issue in India - they grounded a number of people and then it all got swept under the rug. Hopefully this doesn't happen here.
Fully agree that PIA needs to be banned Globally and an independent investigation needs to be conducted. I see they're IOSA certified - shows what a complete joke this is imho.
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Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
You forgot nepotism. As Mr. Jansen said, it's par for the course over there.BMLtech wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:24 pmThis sounds like a little bit more than logbook padding. They are saying that up to a third of their pilots falsified their license exams, rampant cronyism, patronage,etc.This latest accident implies incompetence beyond belief. Who's to say if their wide body operation is any different?Heliian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:44 pmHa, you think they're bad, I can't imagine all of the AC pilots with padded logbooks.
All kidding aside, this isn't just a pakistani problem but this really highlights what people will do to get that seat, even if they're not qualified or illiterate.
I don't think you have a case for banning PIA just yet.
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Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
Don’t kid yourself, there’s plenty of nepotism on this side of the planet too. But at least most of our training and qualification programs are legitimate enough to weed out the kind of weakness displayed by the PIA crew.
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Re: Pakistan Airlines crash near Karachi airport May 22 2020
^ Weakness? I rather think that you'd have to actively try to F$$k it up that badly!
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