Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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? with this recent incident n the otter flip over on a lake near ft smith how many dhc3 are left . there was one lost in manitoba in 2019. Alaska lost a couple in 2019. if my memory is accurate there were 416 built
This is not a writeoff. It's been towed back to Vancouver and is already being repaired. Heck - The one that was eaten by a Beaver last summer was much more damaged than this and that one is back flying.
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If a data plate survives I wouldn’t be surprised to see a complete rebuild from that as time goes on.
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fish4life wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:49 am If a data plate survives I wouldn’t be surprised to see a complete rebuild from that as time goes on.
The data plate from a beaver or otter is virtually indestructible. Many of them have been thru much worse than this over time, and are today flying around with a whole bunch of new parts attached.
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C-GIGO, a float equipped Cessna 208 aircraft operated by Seair Seaplanes Ltd., was preparing to
conduct a flight from Ganges Harbour (CAX6), BC to Vancouver Int'l (CYVR), BC with 1 crew
member on board. Prior to the engine starting, the dockhand assisting the pilot untied the guide
rope and held it in his hand. When the engine started the aircraft travelled forward pulling the rope
from the dockhand. The aircraft began travelling forward until the propeller of C-GIGO struck the
rear of C-GUTW, a float equipped DHC-3T operated by Harbour Air. After the initial prop strike, the
pilot of C-GIGO quickly shut down the engine as the aircraft rotated 90 degrees striking C-GUTW
with the RH wing. C-GUTW was tied to the dock with no one on board during the occurrence.
There were no injuries; both aircraft sustained substantial damage.
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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boeingboy wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:34 am This is not a writeoff. It's been towed back to Vancouver and is already being repaired.
Video of towing a floatplane. Not sure which one this is.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/v ... d=msedgntp
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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pelmet wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:23 pm Video of towing a floatplane. Not sure which one this is.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/v ... d=msedgntp
That's of the 185 that flipped by Tofino; nothing at all to do with Seair's latest SNAFU.
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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2112 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:06 pm
pelmet wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:45 pm Looks like there was a second but much gentler collision after the Caravan's tail swung out.
Yeah saw that too, meanwhile as both guys are running in holy F#$% mode it appears the engine was still running and began spooling back up while both heads were down at the front of the float. Luckily the prop gets hooked on the otter tail again before getting up to speed and you can see the pilot run back in to grab the condition lever (I assume) when he realizes how close they both came to getting a haircut....horror show would be an understatement.
I have no direct knowledge of this incident - but I once fired up a caravan for a quick taxi forward of about 30', and forgot to turn off the starter. On the subsequent shutdown (seconds later) the engine spooled down to about 15% and stabilized. That could be what we are seeing here - the prop is moving but not with any kind of energy that could cause injury.
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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7ECA wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:44 pm
pelmet wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 9:23 pm Video of towing a floatplane. Not sure which one this is.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/v ... d=msedgntp
That's of the 185 that flipped by Tofino; nothing at all to do with Seair's latest SNAFU.
C-GYJX, a float-equipped Cessna A185F operated by Atleo River Air Service Ltd, was conducting
a flight from Tofino Harbour Water Aerodrome (CAB4), BC, to the Hesquiaht First Nation located in
Hot Springs Cove, BC, with 1 pilot and 4 passengers on board. During takeoff, the aircraft
momentarily became airborne before control was lost and the aircraft nosed-over in shallow water.
All occupants were able to exit the aircraft onto a sandbar with reported minor injuries. The aircraft
was substantially damaged.
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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Heard a rumour about this accident, from someone close to one of the participants...take this with a pinch of salt. But apparently it was the company owner who was at the controls, and he hadn't done his recurrent training and therefore shouldn't have been flying, and he is apparently trying to pin responsibility on the dockhand (who has left the company).
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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Sounds about right, with the shenanigans that seem to surround certain folks on the Coast.
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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he is apparently trying to pin responsibility on the dockhand
Well, ultimately the pilot is responsible. If the airplane was started at the dock, in feather, the pilot has to know that it's going to make thrust, before it can get into beta range, and must make the necessary precautions. If the dockhand disobeyed a direct instruction to leave it tied until told to untie it, perhaps that's something, but it's still the responsibility of the pilot. If you cannot be absolutely certain that it won't move forward, point it somewhere harmless before selecting out of feather....
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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Done starts like this thousands of times.. nobody seems to listen when you say ‘’ do not untie until I give you a thumbs up’’ they untie as soon as the prop starts turning! What a mess! Hope everyone had there life jackets on! :rolleyes:
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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CpnCrunch wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:20 pm Heard a rumour about this accident, from someone close to one of the participants...take this with a pinch of salt. But apparently it was the company owner who was at the controls, and he hadn't done his recurrent training and therefore shouldn't have been flying, and he is apparently trying to pin responsibility on the dockhand (who has left the company).
Not a good idea to spread baseless rumors, as they are just as likely to end up being lies, as this one did.
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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beaverbob wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:33 pm
CpnCrunch wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:20 pm Heard a rumour about this accident, from someone close to one of the participants...take this with a pinch of salt. But apparently it was the company owner who was at the controls, and he hadn't done his recurrent training and therefore shouldn't have been flying, and he is apparently trying to pin responsibility on the dockhand (who has left the company).
Not a good idea to spread baseless rumors, as they are just as likely to end up being lies, as this one did.
Bob
Well this doesn't seem to be an outright lie...I heard it from someone very close to one of the people involved (edited to remove specific details). But still, the details may or may not be accurate, so I'd take it with a pinch of salt.
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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You heard it from a guy who knows a guy who heard it from a guy who was there?
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Re: Caravan Trys to Eat Otter Tail on Saltspring

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SpyPilot wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:07 am You heard it from a guy who knows a guy who heard it from a guy who was there?
Close family member of one of the participants.
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