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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:47 am 
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Well, good morning on this fine and crispy as f**k October the 12th! WINTER IS COMING!

Once again, the great people at APAS are posting job ads that 90% of forum users here salivate over.

Clearly, since this ad pops up more often than my uncle Helmut's schwanz, while watching news clips of Oktoberfest girls carrying beer jugs, or Wasaya's "Career Opportunity" ads, something tells me they're not able to acquire the talent they are hoping for. Sarcasm aside, I'm actually curious, why these people can't find their qualified pilots.

1. Could it be the 8 consecutive days off (+4 non-consecutive off) a month?
2. Could it be the 500+ hours on type they require??
3. Could it be the relatively low pay $102,000 US a year for a 777 F/O (I'm sure that's way lower than the ME / North America / Europe pays their 777 FOs?
4. Could it be the volatile political environment in the Korean Peninsula?

For a King Air driver, this may seem like a great job opportunity and a good gig, but to an Air Canada 777 F/O, I doubt this has the slightest appeal.

This ad / requirements haven't changed in a while. I guess they're not reaching their target audience. Any thoughts?



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:08 pm 
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Expansion? Flow through? Attrition? Maybe like Wasaya and Pasco and Jazz they just need that many people.

Why go? People sick of the long waits here. People who got fired. People sick of snow and high taxes. People who don’t want to live in a ‘destroyed’ country ‘overrun’ by Muslims. NTR from any number of bottom feeder 705 companies (Georgian, Flair, Voyageur just to name some).



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:54 pm 
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salavate over??

I was going to post something this morning about these ads.

Competitive salary? Who are they competing with, Encore Captains?

I believe the one ad was suggesting $82k USD was a competitive salary. It is competitive if you only work 4-8 days a month. It might also be competitive if you only need 3-6 months to upgrade.

I'm interested in going overseas probably more than most people do. It's a combination of Canadian taxes, winter and the opportunity to make more money than I can here at home. Today, you can make more than this flying a 9 passenger turboprop if you look around. You don't even have to look hard. These aren't even enough to get me to look into what airline it's for.

500 hours on type is pretty standard in the contract world.

Sorry APASS, you're going to have to do better than that.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:46 pm 
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BE20 Driver wrote:
salavate over??


The opportunity to fly a 777? I'm guilty of that sometimes, though I'm old enough now to know that life has different priorities.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:16 pm 
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In 1995, that would have been the dream working for APASS, being king s*&% on a 777.

Maybe that's why APASS is offering 1995 wages?!

Edit: I stand corrected. It's $78,000 USD.



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:02 pm 
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HansDietrich wrote:
Clearly, since this ad pops up more often than my uncle Helmut's schwanz, while watching news clips of Oktoberfest girls carrying beer jugs, or Wasaya's "Career Opportunity"



Looks like you touched a nerve, they are back to calling it a pilot opportunity :smt040



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:52 pm 
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Wait, Wasaya is hiring?? When did this happen?

:smt031 :smt101



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:59 am 
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Its kind of like job security, you could always get a job at Wasaya


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