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Swoop pay

#1 Post by handyandy » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:13 pm

Looks like first year captain pay is about 55% of westjet mainline. Assuming there is no ESP, Profit Share or Options.
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Re: Swoop pay

#2 Post by FICU » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:51 pm

Captain Hourly Rates
Step 1 - $103.57
Step 2 - $119.50
Step 3 - $131.46z
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#3 Post by Shady McSly » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:40 pm

That's not that bad, how do I apply?
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#4 Post by goingnowherefast » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:09 am

I hope they're paying by the CARs duty hour.
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#5 Post by FICU » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:43 am

x75 credit hours a month works to about $92,000/year for an NG Captain.

Thanks to the 737 charter airlines here in Canada who most recently lowered the bar on 737 Captain wages because Swoop is running with it.

What a disgrace!
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#6 Post by swimming » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:17 pm

More information is required. Those paysteps are the first three of a 12 step paystructure pulled directly from Sunwing’s contract. Sunwing has a minimum guarantee of 1000 credits a year if I read the contract correctly. Is Swoop just going to mirror Sunwing’s contract? Still a lot of unknowns.
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#7 Post by ski_bum » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:43 pm

Folks don’t sell yourself short to get into a 737. That pay rate is almost half of Air Canada’s, and a fraction of what our US partners make to do the same job with most probably way better working standards. THERE IS A PILOT SHORTAGE! No need to race to the bottom!!
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#8 Post by C.W.E. » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:45 pm

THERE IS A PILOT SHORTAGE!
Not yet if they are getting pilots applying and accepting the offer.
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#9 Post by veritas123 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:52 pm

Air China's new flight school!! :D
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#10 Post by Bede » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:38 am

swimming wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:17 pm
More information is required. Those paysteps are the first three of a 12 step paystructure pulled directly from Sunwing’s contract. Sunwing has a minimum guarantee of 1000 credits a year if I read the contract correctly. Is Swoop just going to mirror Sunwing’s contract? Still a lot of unknowns.
If history is any guide, that hourly rate will be the high point of the contract. Look at Encore, I don't even think that there was OT pay until you hit a certain number of hours. There won't be a contract and few work rules. No options, ESP, etc. But there will be cheap travel on WJ!

Encore pilots were promised career progression and all they get is a bigger airplane at a fraction of the going rate. Shiny airplanes don't put food on the table.
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#11 Post by bezerker » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:16 pm

So if the pay scale is matching Sunwings, and everyone thinks that is not acceptable, then what is acceptable?

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Re: Swoop pay

#12 Post by atphat » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:44 pm

bezerker wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:16 pm
So if the pay scale is matching Sunwings, and everyone thinks that is not acceptable, then what is acceptable?

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I guess the notion of scope is lost on you. Look it up! There is a reason it is article 1 in almost every CBA negotiated for major airline folk.
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#13 Post by bezerker » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:49 pm

So the pay is acceptable. Glad we sorted that out.

Now tell me about their scope.
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#14 Post by atphat » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:01 pm

That’s ok. I have a feeling it would be a waste of time.
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#15 Post by bezerker » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:15 pm

Maybe start a new thread when you have time then. This one was called Swoop pay.
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