Anyone see the RJ Captain ad in China?
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 59#p948859
"9.Non-Islamic religion (Preferably American or Canadian)"
So is this a thing now? Are we seriously going to let this be a requirement and posted? This is full blatant discrimination that I don't believe us Canadians stand for.
Comments? - Lets not be racist please.
Absurd Requirement
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squash junky
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that should be a requirement in all non islamic nations for all jobs 
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SuperchargedRS
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Vanguard wrote:Anyone see the RJ Captain ad in China?
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 59#p948859
"9.Non-Islamic religion (Preferably American or Canadian)"
So is this a thing now? Are we seriously going to let this be a requirement and posted? This is full blatant discrimination that I don't believe us Canadians stand for.
Comments? - Lets not be racist please.
How is this different from some other Canadian companies who "give preference to natives" ?
Same damn thing, frankly with what some of the Muslim population has been doing I can actually understand this over only hiring natives.
Racism is racism
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squash junky wrote:that should be a requirement in all non islamic nations for all jobs
agree!
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Well your ignorance shows clearly....
The situation with the Natives is completely different. The fact that you don't see a difference actually surprises me.
Islam/Muslims don't really have anything to do with what's been going on lately...If you do think so; please do some research people. Unawareness is blindness. I know many Muslims here in Canada that are great people and are doing greater things. Don't have to paint them all with the same brush.
The situation with the Natives is completely different. The fact that you don't see a difference actually surprises me.
Islam/Muslims don't really have anything to do with what's been going on lately...If you do think so; please do some research people. Unawareness is blindness. I know many Muslims here in Canada that are great people and are doing greater things. Don't have to paint them all with the same brush.
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SuperchargedRS
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Judging folks based on skin pigment, heritage, breeding, religion, it's all the same ignorant chit. Just because your government and media says one is good and the other is bad doesn't change a clear facts that it's the exact same thing.
Personally I condemn it all, I will judge a man, but I judge them based on their character, actions and skills, don't much care who they warship, what color they are or much of anything else.
Personally I condemn it all, I will judge a man, but I judge them based on their character, actions and skills, don't much care who they warship, what color they are or much of anything else.
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No it isn't. Religion is a choice which you can change. Heritage / skin pigment / race / gender is something you can't change.SuperchargedRS wrote:Judging folks based on skin pigment, heritage, breeding, religion, it's all the same ignorant chit. Just because your government and media says one is good and the other is bad doesn't change a clear facts that it's the exact same thing.
Personally I condemn it all, I will judge a man, but I judge them based on their character, actions and skills, don't much care who they warship, what color they are or much of anything else.
Now the non islamic region makes it a bit weirder and morally questionable.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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squash junky
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It's about being ignorant and sticking your head in the sand.
We are politically correct-strike 1
we give to who screams the loudest- strike 2
we forgive and forget- strike 3
I lived in Europe for 25 years. Look at the UK, northern countries, and the rest. Not even talking about the terrorism.
And those who entered years ago were also viewed as good people.
I'll be ok in my life time, but I welcome a company that states it straight on.
So no judgement on skin or whatever.....but yes to history repeating itself. Naive.
We are politically correct-strike 1
we give to who screams the loudest- strike 2
we forgive and forget- strike 3
I lived in Europe for 25 years. Look at the UK, northern countries, and the rest. Not even talking about the terrorism.
And those who entered years ago were also viewed as good people.
I'll be ok in my life time, but I welcome a company that states it straight on.
So no judgement on skin or whatever.....but yes to history repeating itself. Naive.
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Let's be clear Islam is a religion not a race. This ad is not racist, discriminatory to be sure, but not racist. It also discriminates against people aged over 50.
"If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through."
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crazyaviator
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I would love to host peoples from all over the earth and to help BUT on MY CANADIAN beliefs and values
Just to keep on topic, Affirmative action is Patently unfair and wrong on all levels. I would hire a Pilot/ AME based upon their ability, experience, social skills etc. I would not hire a high risk/ high cost employee because the government thinks i am discriminating
Just to keep on topic, Affirmative action is Patently unfair and wrong on all levels. I would hire a Pilot/ AME based upon their ability, experience, social skills etc. I would not hire a high risk/ high cost employee because the government thinks i am discriminating
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And what are those ? Honest question!crazyaviator wrote:BUT on MY CANADIAN beliefs and values
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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I am going to chime in on this one, as I have a bit of an understanding of why.
There have been several religious issues that have caused airlines grief. One of the latest was a flight attendent who decided one day that her religion did not allow her to serve alcohol. She didnt look for another job. Just took the airline to court when they fired her for sitting on her fat ass while the other flight attendents did the work.
Less publically, there have been some huge scheduling issues. Again, after taking the job as flight crew or cabin crew, there is suddenly a demand regarding conflicting schedules with prayer times...when your religion requires you to pray five times a day, scheduling can be a problem...but no one ever seemed bothered by it when applying for a job. Only afterwards.
Lastly, there is the whole security issue. That may be fair or not, but it is a hassle for the sirlines
It is not racist or discrimatory to simply say who needs the hassle when there are other qualified people out there who , after accepting the job, wont demand special accommodations that put extra work on the other employees.
I really have no idea why they post these in job ads. They could simply just screen the candidates, so I assume it is eithervbecause they might be trying to make a point, or if someone lies, and then suddenly "converts" and wont serve alcohol, fly on any flight that arrives after daybreak, etc, the airline has legal grounds to terminate them based on false information...just a guess
There have been several religious issues that have caused airlines grief. One of the latest was a flight attendent who decided one day that her religion did not allow her to serve alcohol. She didnt look for another job. Just took the airline to court when they fired her for sitting on her fat ass while the other flight attendents did the work.
Less publically, there have been some huge scheduling issues. Again, after taking the job as flight crew or cabin crew, there is suddenly a demand regarding conflicting schedules with prayer times...when your religion requires you to pray five times a day, scheduling can be a problem...but no one ever seemed bothered by it when applying for a job. Only afterwards.
Lastly, there is the whole security issue. That may be fair or not, but it is a hassle for the sirlines
It is not racist or discrimatory to simply say who needs the hassle when there are other qualified people out there who , after accepting the job, wont demand special accommodations that put extra work on the other employees.
I really have no idea why they post these in job ads. They could simply just screen the candidates, so I assume it is eithervbecause they might be trying to make a point, or if someone lies, and then suddenly "converts" and wont serve alcohol, fly on any flight that arrives after daybreak, etc, the airline has legal grounds to terminate them based on false information...just a guess
Accident speculation:
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Those that post don’t know. Those that know don’t post
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Heisenberg666
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It just gives you an idea of how you are going to be treated over there, no matter your belief or your origin.Vanguard wrote:Anyone see the RJ Captain ad in China?
http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... 59#p948859
"9.Non-Islamic religion (Preferably American or Canadian)"
