Just use caution as aircraft such as the BE02 are now considered single pilot by TC and the right seat checkout wont freeze the exams anymore.Adam Oke wrote:I was told by both Hamilton and Toronto offices that if you get a type rating using the SAMRON, and SAMRA that it will freeze the exams.
Essentially, ensure you have both exams written prior to a type rating and they will freeze. Only use the IATRA if you're in a bind.
Jan 1, 2015schnitzel2k3 wrote:When did that come into effect?
High Performance Aeroplane Type Rating:
https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/ ... 7-1396.htm
Two Crew Aeroplanes:
https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/ ... 2-1393.htm
True, it’s not a given but there are also plenty of openings all over the country right now. Come at any reasonably appropriate job with honesty, humility, and some baseline skill right now and it ought to just about be in the bag. That and the OP had planned on writing their AAs while already employed at a 705 where it should be reasonably easy to fly at least 250 hours a year. If you know a place where you can make a decent living on less work I’m all ears.
I don't know who you talked to but that is not correct. From the CARs :
400.03 (1) Subject to subsection (3), written examinations, including all sections of a sectionalized examination, that are required for the issuance of a permit or licence or for the endorsement of a permit or licence with a rating shall be completed during the 24-month period preceding the date of the application for the permit, licence or rating.
(2) Subsection (1) does not apply in respect of examinations that are required for the issuance of
(b) an airline transport pilot licence if examinations were previously written
(i) for the endorsement of a type rating, a mark of 70 per cent or higher was obtained on the examination and the type rating was issued;
Classic TC! I just don't understand how else they can interpret that rule...
I’m not surprised. I once had two TC inspectors contradict each other over an hour requirement written in crystal clear English.
No, no and no. Pretty much all that you wrote was wrong. All 1900 models are not two crew and do not require exams of any kind for PIC or SIC. Whether they can be operated single pilot is a completely different issue.leftoftrack wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:50 amYou're confusing what gets frozen. The IATRA or both The SARON and SAMRON will freeze the ability to act as a co-pilot indefinitely when coupled with a type rating on a 2 crew airplane. to upgrade the license to a ATPL the exams must be written within 24 months of meeting all requirements for the ATPL and having your logbook submitted. The 1900 is not a transport category aircraft its a commuter catagory. also, the D model is certified single pilot where as the C model is only certified as a 2 crew aircraft, so the C will freeze your IATRA where the D won't.
A lot of the CARs are poorly worded or ambiguous, but this is crystal clear. Read 400.03 and 421.40.
You always must have written the exams in the past 2 years for the first two crew type rating, or 5 years for an integrated course. After you have the type rating you never have to write another exam.
The exam time limit waver is for the application for an ATPL (or student PL) only, not type ratings.
Specifically (in plain english):
(1)Exams for a license, permit or rating must be passed in the 24 months preceding the application
(2)The exam time limit in (1) does not apply
...(b)for the issuance of an ATPL if exams were written
......(i) for a two crew type rating, passed and was issued
......(ii) for a senior commercial pilot license, were passed and SCPL was issued
......(iii) for the ATPL and passed in the past 5 years as part of an integrated course that was also passed
Notice in part (i) they don't specify the exam. If you really read it carefully it actually implies that if you got a two crew type rating with an IATRA the ATPL exam time limit is still waved.
(i)Exams for type rating (exams are only required for two crew): IATRA or SARON and SAMRA
(ii)Exams for SCPL: whatever those were
(iii)Exams for ATPL: SARON and SAMRA
The person you were dealing with just doesn't know the regs properly and is too lazy to look it up. You literally would have to present the relevant regs to them.
On a related note, my CAME didn't know that if you renew your medical 90 days before the expiry, the date of expiry remains the same. Never assume that just because you think someone SHOULD know a regulation as part of their job, that they actually DO.