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Re: Voyageur

Post by Bolter »

Math is wrong.
FO Base salary = $36k
Overseas bonus = 135% pay so you get 235% of salary when overseas (100%+135%). May still be some bases with higher bonus rates - don't work there anymore.
work 6 months = 36/2*235% = $42.3k
Add 7% (I believe) vacation pay, so another $2520.
You get paid base salary when doing training, sims, etc, in Canada + from end of initial training & starting work (so if there is a one month delay in getting you overseas you still get paid). No pay for travel other than per diems.
If you want to make more, you can work more/lots of people extend their tours & others work back home in Canada//you have roughly 5 months time in Canada, or wherever you decide to take your time off.
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Re: Voyageur

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Bolter wrote:Math is wrong.
FO Base salary = $36k
Overseas bonus = 135% pay so you get 235% of salary when overseas (100%+135%). May still be some bases with higher bonus rates - don't work there anymore.
work 6 months = 36/2*235% = $42.3k
AZ382 wrote:36000 x 17.5% = 42300
Since you both arrive with a same number, math must be right :mrgreen:

So Voyager advertise 36k as base salary for new F/O.
Then:
Base salary is a fixed amount of money paid to an employee by an employer in return for work performed. Base salary does not include benefits, bonuses or any other potential compensation from an employer. Base salary is paid, most frequently, in a bi-weekly paycheck to an exempt or professional employee.
If I follow correctly, a new employee at Voyager won't get this base salary of 36k per year no matter the day worked.
It will be instead a pro rata on those day worked (plus field pay when applicable)


Kind of misleading to call this 36k a "base" salary.
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Re: Voyageur

Post by fantasy_flight »

Any idea what it is like with Voyager on their maintenance side? I saw a post for them looking for some M or E wrenches.
Specifically want to know what pay, travel, rotation and working conditions would be like.

Thanks
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Re: Voyageur

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Well first off one thing to consider if it is for the overseas gig, those details further up in the thread might not apply depending where they stick you. European ACMIs have ushered in a B scale for pay and rotations. You may notice that they have dropped the 8 weeks in / 8 weeks out from their ads.

The above is still applicable for Africa. Europe on the other hand...

Domestic pay while you are on rotation
50% Incentive while on rotation
100Euro PD while on rotation
8 weeks on / 4 weeks off is their advertised rotation for Europe.

The carrot is no longer as enticing
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You forgot to add the free bonus of no risk of malaria for the Euro Ops :lol:

Thought the pay scale would have improved with the current shortage of AME's and pilots...
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dhc# wrote:You forgot to add the free bonus of no risk of malaria for the Euro Ops :lol:
That's true. You also can't put a value on that clean northern air.
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I sucked back forest fires smoke all summer.
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Re: Voyageur

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Voyeur. Isn't that when you spy on your neighbor undressing?
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Re: Voyageur

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Yeah in Africa you'll get 36k * 2.35 / 2 = 42,300
183 days per diem overseas + 6 days travel = 9,450 USD = 11,822 CAD
Say six days recurrent SIM = 592
Six days PD = 300
Vacation pay I think is 5% of your gross so = 2150

So you'll make 45k plus 12k per diem, 170 days vacation a year and you can travel to and from anywhere in the world between tours. Oh and they pay for your medical and uniform stuff.

I think I made 87k my second year there as a training captain, plus 12k per diem and I got a 23,000 tax return (not anymore!)

Some bases provide room and board, most have super cheap groceries and good kitchens, Mali you spend your per diem.

I liked it. Good safety culture.

$15k up front bond via upfront cash or a co-signed bank loan that is held in escrow in savings bonds. It's enforceable if you quit or are fired for cause, but I know some were fired and refunded. You can expense the interest you pay on the loan. You get paid out the interest on the bond at twelve months. A friend of mine got laid off and still had the loan in effect for the duration of the term LOL, they called him back to go on a different plane though. Which he was happy about.
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Re: Voyageur

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I've heard the bond is a thing of the past.
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Payscale has increased and the training bond has been discontinued.
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Re: Voyageur

Post by KenoraPilot »

Yes they’ve got contracts out with Avianco to finding DH8 and RJ captains for $8k/mth on short contracts! If I could get a leave for a tour I’d for sure go back! I can imagine they can’t find anyone to staff their planes.
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Re: Voyageur

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How is Voyageur Airways currently making any money? Many of the pilots are not flying but continuing to be paid. Apparently Voyageur has had contract issues with the United Nations. Pilot experience not meeting contract requirements. Does anyone have any current information?
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Anyone with any updated news from Voyageur ? Where are they flying in Africa these days ? Same fleet (-8's and RJ's) ? Still working for the UN ?
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Re: Voyageur

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Make min $500/day plus 55 per diem in canada. As contract ame. Would no go to shithole country for less than 1000 per day. Appliance repairman charges 80 per hr. Shows up in old beat up truck with bag of tools.
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Re: Voyageur

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Where are they flying overseas these days ?
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Re: Voyageur

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Kosiw wrote: Sun May 13, 2018 11:14 am Where are they flying overseas these days ?
To the best of my knowledge:

RJ bases:

Al-Fashir, Sudan
Entebbe, Uganda
Kinshasa, DRC
Umea and somewhere else in Sweden
Aruba

Dash-8 bases:

Bukavu and Goma, DRC
Bamako, Mali
Niamey, Niger

Dash has some domestic work available too. This is a fairly current list but as with any contract work, subject to change with little notice.
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Re: Voyageur

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Were they not looking at operating Q400s a few yrs back after some of their engineers got a Q4 course, or did that all fizzle out.
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Re: Voyageur

Post by Victory »

Good to see they're out of South Sudan.
Yes, the Q400 rumors died down over the last year.
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