tps8903 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:22 am I'll bite! Here are some questions, likely to be asked by many people.

1. How much is the promissory note for? How long is it? How much money do you have to pay upfront?

2. How many hours do you fly per month on average?

3. At what point to you start getting overtime and how much does OT pay?

4. How many Guarenteed Days off do you have per month?

5. How often does you schedule change?

6. How much are the Per Diems?

7. How much is the base salary for FO and Capt?

8. How much is rent in YHZ/YQX?

9. What are the health and retirement benefits? How much are they?

Is that a good start?

Inverted2 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:13 pm So you work 90+ hours a month and no overtime pay? Is that even legal?

BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:35 pm

Inverted2 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:13 pm So you work 90+ hours a month and no overtime pay? Is that even legal?

Apparently it is. Most are flying over 100 hours per month at EVAS with no additional compensation.

They claim because they pay salary you are not elligable for OT. The best part! If you are unfortunate enough to have to wait 2 months for your PPC after starting ground school at EVAS, they stop paying you while you wait for your PPC. So you move to YQX/YHZ get paid for two weeks, then nothing. I know the union had that decision reversed, and those people eventually got their "salary", but these are the type of people you work for. Suck and blow at the same time.

Evascaptainyhz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:58 am as of right now
1. Promissary note is $20,000 again if you stay your contracted agreement (2 years)that doesnt matter. $0 upfront! the uniform is deducted off per pay cheque.(looking into this)
2. Depends on staff but yes usually around 90ish sometimes more sometimes less. (latley usually abit more then 90)
3. this is correct (again one of the major things we are looking at for CBA)
4. This depends on staff as a new hire technically you only get 10 GDOS after 2 years 11 after 5 13 This being said its fairly rare to actually work Minimum GDO's usually you will get 1 above min and a few reserves.
5. Schedule does change alot it has been for a long time (Most important thing we are looking at for new CBA)
6. $25 per day if over 5 hours. $43 if working at other base
7. $33,480 FO plus roughly 6.5K a year for per diems not including OT 61,389 with the 6.5K in perdiems again not including OT.
8. YQX is fairly decent but youd have to do your research, YHZ is almost impossible to answer depends on what you want. what area you want if you are by yourself etc...
9 .Correct
10. medical and dental again depends on what plan you use....etc anywhere from 40-80 per pay. you dont have a payback for the bond. there is no bond its a promissary Note.

Roadrunnersmother wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:13 pm

Evascaptainyhz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:58 am as of right now
1. Promissary note is $20,000 again if you stay your contracted agreement (2 years)that doesnt matter. $0 upfront! the uniform is deducted off per pay cheque.(looking into this)
2. Depends on staff but yes usually around 90ish sometimes more sometimes less. (latley usually abit more then 90)
3. this is correct (again one of the major things we are looking at for CBA)
4. This depends on staff as a new hire technically you only get 10 GDOS after 2 years 11 after 5 13 This being said its fairly rare to actually work Minimum GDO's usually you will get 1 above min and a few reserves.
5. Schedule does change alot it has been for a long time (Most important thing we are looking at for new CBA)
6. $25 per day if over 5 hours. $43 if working at other base
7. $33,480 FO plus roughly 6.5K a year for per diems not including OT 61,389 with the 6.5K in perdiems again not including OT.
8. YQX is fairly decent but youd have to do your research, YHZ is almost impossible to answer depends on what you want. what area you want if you are by yourself etc...
9 .Correct
10. medical and dental again depends on what plan you use....etc anywhere from 40-80 per pay. you dont have a payback for the bond. there is no bond its a promissary Note.

Looks like I will not be wanting a position. I don't see anything better about it than king Air. Certainly a downgrade.

BE02 Driver wrote: ↑Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:33 am

I got this one EVAS YHZ Captain. Correct where necessary.


1. How much is the promissory note for? How long is it? How much money do you have to pay upfront?

- Last Check $20,000 for 2 years, 50% cash upfront. And approximately $450 cash for your uniform...

I stopped reading here.

50% up front cash from a poor F/O? $10,000 cash ? $450 for the uniform? They have to pay for uniform?

Are the managers at EVAS insane? Let me ask that again: "ARE THE MANAGERS AT EVAS INSANE?"

Shame on you for taking advantage of hard working and talented people!

Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:15 pm Evasyhzcaptain,

I’ll start by saying I commend you for the time and effort you’ve put into improving your CBA and WAWCON. That said, I feel bad for current/future Evas employees having you bargaining on their behalf. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to work at an even semi-decent airline. You clearly have big fish in a very tiny scummy pond syndrome and most of all you clearly are delusional if you think any of the above listed working conditions are acceptable. Do your fellow co-workers, future co-workers and every other Canadian pilot a favour and exclude yourself from the negotiations in favour of someone with more factual industry knowledge.

Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:15 pm Evasyhzcaptain,

I’ll start by saying I commend you for the time and effort you’ve put into improving your CBA and WAWCON. That said, I feel bad for current/future Evas employees having you bargaining on their behalf. You clearly have no idea what it’s like to work at an even semi-decent airline. You clearly have big fish in a very tiny scummy pond syndrome and most of all you clearly are delusional if you think any of the above listed working conditions are acceptable. Do your fellow co-workers, future co-workers and every other Canadian pilot a favour and exclude yourself from the negotiations in favour of someone with more factual industry knowledge.