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Iatra or Atpl

#1 Post by flycomercial » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:20 pm

Hello all,

Just wonder if Encore hires someone who hasn't written ATPL yet. I plan to apply soon and want to make sure if I should write A's before applying or IATRA is sufficient. And does Encore offers PICUS? If not, should I have all the pic hours that require for ATPL prior to getting a job?

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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#2 Post by sky.is.limited » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:12 am

They would hire someone without ATPL, but you need IATRA to fly their planes as its a designated two crew planes that listed on the transport canada website. Once you got hired, they told you to get the ATPL done within a year. So eventually you need the ATPL done anyways, so it depends how much time you have, if the ground school starts almost right away for some reasons, and you only have less than a couple months, IATRA is the quickest and easiest to get you going, but ATPL is better if you can get it done in a couple months while doing the training at the same time. Hope it helps.
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#3 Post by flycomercial » Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:24 pm

sky.is.limited wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:12 am
They would hire someone without ATPL, but you need IATRA to fly their planes as its a designated two crew planes that listed on the transport canada website. Once you got hired, they told you to get the ATPL done within a year. So eventually you need the ATPL done anyways, so it depends how much time you have, if the ground school starts almost right away for some reasons, and you only have less than a couple months, IATRA is the quickest and easiest to get you going, but ATPL is better if you can get it done in a couple months while doing the training at the same time. Hope it helps.
I currently have IATRA with me, so that won't be a problem. But do I need to have all the pic time that is required for ATPL prior to the hiring? Just need couple more hours of pic time, and I'm thinking to rent a plane to gain those in case they don't offer picus.
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#4 Post by sky.is.limited » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:13 pm

flycomercial wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:24 pm
sky.is.limited wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:12 am
They would hire someone without ATPL, but you need IATRA to fly their planes as its a designated two crew planes that listed on the transport canada website. Once you got hired, they told you to get the ATPL done within a year. So eventually you need the ATPL done anyways, so it depends how much time you have, if the ground school starts almost right away for some reasons, and you only have less than a couple months, IATRA is the quickest and easiest to get you going, but ATPL is better if you can get it done in a couple months while doing the training at the same time. Hope it helps.
I currently have IATRA with me, so that won't be a problem. But do I need to have all the pic time that is required for ATPL prior to the hiring? Just need couple more hours of pic time, and I'm thinking to rent a plane to gain those in case they don't offer picus.
That I actually don't know because I don't work for them. Sorry!
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#5 Post by lownslow » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:31 am

flycomercial wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:20 pm
Just wonder if Encore hires someone who hasn't written ATPL yet. I plan to apply soon and want to make sure if I should write A's before applying or IATRA is sufficient. And does Encore offers PICUS? If not, should I have all the pic hours that require for ATPL prior to getting a job?
I can’t help but I can say in some ways these questions blow my mind. When I was in your position I probably would have committed a murder to get a job with a 705 airline, had they asked me to. Incredible how things have changed, and quickly.
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#6 Post by Dizzy D » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:13 am

Encore is in the process of bringing a PICUS program in now. It should be in place in the next few months. If I were you, I would just write the Aa’s, because you will need them anyways.
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#7 Post by tps8903 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:25 am

flycomercial wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:20 pm
Hello all,

Just wonder if Encore hires someone who hasn't written ATPL yet. I plan to apply soon and want to make sure if I should write A's before applying or IATRA is sufficient. And does Encore offers PICUS? If not, should I have all the pic hours that require for ATPL prior to getting a job?

Thanks
PICUS goes online at Encore in the next few days/weeks
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#8 Post by flycomercial » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:26 pm

tps8903 wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:25 am
flycomercial wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:20 pm
Hello all,

Just wonder if Encore hires someone who hasn't written ATPL yet. I plan to apply soon and want to make sure if I should write A's before applying or IATRA is sufficient. And does Encore offers PICUS? If not, should I have all the pic hours that require for ATPL prior to getting a job?

Thanks
PICUS goes online at Encore in the next few days/weeks
That is awesome. I am planning to write my A's soon and hope to apply Encore by beginning of next year.
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#9 Post by tbayav8er » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:50 pm

As was just mentioned....PICUS is happening at Encore. If you're able to, I would suggest writing your A's before starting. The first year at Encore, you are busy with initial training, your first recurrent, trying to get the hang of things etc. and you likely won't want to study during layovers or your days off.....So if you have enough free time now to study and write your A's, you'll be able to just relax and not have to worry about it on your days off. I wrote my A's after I got hired, and I regretted not having done them before I started.
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Re: Iatra or Atpl

#10 Post by angry inch » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:53 pm

If one uses the Encore PICUS option to top up the PIC for the ATPL, is it possible to progress to the left seat on the Q? Or do they have greater experience requirements in their promotional standards...?
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