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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#151 Post by takamasa » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:42 pm

anyone got call for interview lately with the positing in July?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#152 Post by rudder » Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:36 pm

Any DEC offers?

I believe last DEC hires were late 2012 or early 2013 due minimum experience requirements for upgrade.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#153 Post by daedalusx » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:52 pm

rudder wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:36 pm
Any DEC offers?

I believe last DEC hires were late 2012 or early 2013 due minimum experience requirements for upgrade.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#154 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:09 pm

rudder wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:36 pm
Any DEC offers?
Yes there are DEC's in the current groundschool.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#155 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:59 pm

Looks like one groundschool is starting in late August for which calls have most likely already gone out. There is an additional groundschool starting Sept 10 but no names yet, so calls might not have gone out for that one.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#156 Post by Pasha » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:41 pm

Any one who had beeing interviewed last december and still waiting on a ground school date..with bo news?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#157 Post by Outlaw58 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:16 am

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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#158 Post by sicamore » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:18 am

Outlaw58 wrote:
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#159 Post by Outlaw58 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:20 am

sicamore wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:18 am
Outlaw58 wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:16 am
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Jazz?
Wrong forum... you caught my post during the 25 seconds it was up ;)

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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#160 Post by northernbeaut » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:55 am

Thanks for the info!


ant_321 wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:49 am
northernbeaut wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 6:20 am
I did a quick search, and I can't see anything about First Officer hiring requirements. I've noted the upgrade requirements, just wondering what they are looking for with respect to the right seat? I've got about 1000 hours and currently on a PC12.

Thanks for the info!
You certainly won't hear anything this time around. Once word got out about how quick the latest upgrades were the average experience of applicants went through the roof. Lots of 10-20k+ hour guys looking to come home along with captains from places like cargo jet. I have a few friends who applied with 4000ish hours and only one has been called for an interview so far.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#161 Post by Joe Blow Schmo » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:20 am

So what’s the captain pay?

Pilot jobs network shows year 1 CA pay at $80/hr topping out at $125 in year 5. Top Fo pay is shown at $75/hr? Is that accurate? If so how do senior FOs make $130-150k as a previous poster said?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#162 Post by eyebrow737 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:43 am

Joe Blow Schmo wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:20 am
So what’s the captain pay?

Pilot jobs network shows year 1 CA pay at $80/hr topping out at $125 in year 5. Top Fo pay is shown at $75/hr? Is that accurate? If so how do senior FOs make $130-150k as a previous poster said?
Overtime and overseas Basings.

All details are in the CBA

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... &p25=&p34=
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#163 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:03 pm

The short story:

Year 1 Capt: $103.57 currently, $107.76 in 2019
Year 2 Capt: $119.50 currently, $124.33 in 2019
Year 12 Capt: $195.02 currently, $202.90 in 2019

Note: All internal upgrades with at least 2 years of service at Sunwing start at the Year 2 Captain salary

Year 1 F/O: $55.53 currently, $58.08 in 2019
Year 2 F/O: $69.62 currently, $72.43 in 2019.
Year 10 F/O: $99.14 currently, $105.21 in 2019

Minimum paid is 1000 Hours per year.

Add in a 6 month deployment, per-diems, natural block growth and a little overtime here and there, it is possible to break $100,000 in your first year at Sunwing as an F/O.
In your second year as an F/O, a 3 month deployment, per-diems, natural block growth and some overtime should get you over $100,000.

Deployments went senior this year, so most new F/O's are just getting their base salary, per-diems and what little overtime is available. Without deploying or overtime, I'd budget that gross pay for a Year 1 F/O around $60000.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#164 Post by Joe Blow Schmo » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm

So what could a new DEC expect pay wise?

Are hours flown on GDOs paid in addition to your monthly guarantee?

Is there much opportunity for GDO flying?

Are DECs likely to be forced on European assignments? That'd be hard to do with school age kids unless it was July and August only.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#165 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:42 am

Most of the answers are in my post above
Joe Blow Schmo wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm
So what could a new DEC expect pay wise?
Year 1 Capt: $103.57 currently, $107.76 in 2019. That's $103,570 per year + per-diems.
Joe Blow Schmo wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm
Are hours flown on GDOs paid in addition to your monthly guarantee?
Yes, at 2 times your hourly rate.
Joe Blow Schmo wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm
Is there much opportunity for GDO flying?
Not much for junior Capt's or F/O's.
Joe Blow Schmo wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:46 pm
Are DECs likely to be forced on European assignments?
Deployments went senior this year. It's been a few years since anyone has been forced to go overseas.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#166 Post by fletcher » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:39 pm

I'm a 2500 hour pilot with an ATPL, B737-400/500 type rating (780 hours), 90% 705 time and low PIC (170 hours the rest PICUS).
I've had my application in for over 2 months and haven't heard anything, what gives? Does anyone familiar know if they are backlogged with applications?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#167 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:18 am

fletcher wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:39 pm
I'm a 2500 hour pilot with an ATPL, B737-400/500 type rating (780 hours), 90% 705 time and low PIC (170 hours the rest PICUS).
I've had my application in for over 2 months and haven't heard anything, what gives? Does anyone familiar know if they are backlogged with applications?
Did you have an internal recommendation or just apply online?

Sunwing places a high value on internal recommendations, so if you’re just applying off the street as a general applicant, it may be a while before they get to you.

As well, the experience of applicants has gone up, so your low hours might be holding you back. The online ad specifies 3000 hours I think. It seems most new people I’ve talked to have at least some 704/705 captain time, or lots of 705 F/O time. My class last year had 704/705 Captains and F/O’s, and the lowest time guy had over 3000 hours. Most of us were 5000+ hours.

I’ve heard rumour of two more courses in late October and early December, but don’t quote me on that. Interviews are ongoing too I think.

Don’t give up hope yet!
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#168 Post by fletcher » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:17 pm

Okay, good to know! Thanks for the info. I do have an internal recommend but it sounds like they’re taking more higher time people than I thought. Cheers!
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#169 Post by daedalusx » Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:05 pm

Anyone knows if calls have gone out for the October GS ?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#170 Post by Aviator6 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:49 am

Looking for part time flying, ie sightseeing around YYZ area. Any leads? I have 4 on 4 off sked
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#171 Post by TranquilityBase » Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:02 pm

daedalusx wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:05 pm
Anyone knows if calls have gone out for the October GS ?
Last week I received a call for a course on November 19...I accepted. I could have had something sooner (as in October) but I couldn't free myself from my current employer. This was just a call to tell me i was slotted in. An official offer will come in October.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#172 Post by daedalusx » Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:39 pm

TranquilityBase wrote:
Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:02 pm
daedalusx wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:05 pm
Anyone knows if calls have gone out for the October GS ?
Last week I received a call for a course on November 19...I accepted. I could have had something sooner (as in October) but I couldn't free myself from my current employer. This was just a call to tell me i was slotted in. An official offer will come in October.
Congrats mate !
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#173 Post by mollok » Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:21 pm

TranquilityBase , how many time between the interview and the call?
I've received a mail from the HR the first week of August, telling me I've been successful through the first phase, but they didn't call my reference and no news til this time. I start to think that's not going well. :cry:
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#174 Post by munzil » Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:07 pm

mollok wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:21 pm
TranquilityBase , how many time between the interview and the call?
I've received a mail from the HR the first week of August, telling me I've been successful through the first phase, but they didn't call my reference and no news til this time. I start to think that's not going well. :cry:
Strangely I got the same. Interview in the middle of July (edit), got the letter. Reference checks done and haven't heard anything for almost two months. Couple of emails asking for status have gone unanswered. Makes me wonder
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#175 Post by mollok » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:21 pm

Ok, Strange
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