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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by FOD_Vacuum » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:29 am

Nope.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by kilocharliemike » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:00 pm

Hello,

Since I am a part of the masses that are waiting for a call from Sunwing here, maybe someone would like to field some random Sunwing related random (mostly wife asking)questions!😁

I have heard there have been some changes to European rotations, more/less than usual? shorter duration? Are there any particularly in Portugal? Do they change year to year?

I think someone asked this before too but I can’t find the answer, what are family travel benefits/interline type stuff. Where can « she go »! Basically, I am not important 😬

Peace and love and thanks for your answers, and tell Hr to call me already I have internals! I know they are peeking around in here!

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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:30 pm

Yes most pilots are going over this year. Last year you had to be more senior to go and the junior pilots stayed home, but it changes from year to year. Bases are Dublin, Belfast, Aberdeen, Norwich, Amsterdam, Katowice and Brno.

Travel passes aren’t that great within Sunwing and we’re working on ID90 for other carriers. We do have a good pilot jumpseat program however with most major American carriers and with WJ and AC.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by anchovy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:44 am

What is considered senior these days?

Are there a lot of long term pilots?

If so, do these pilots have an ok family life considering the deployments?

Just curios... looking at the CA, it doesn't seem too bad.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:32 am

anchovy wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:44 am
What is considered senior these days?

Are there a lot of long term pilots?

If so, do these pilots have an ok family life considering the deployments?

Just curios... looking at the CA, it doesn't seem too bad.
All depends on your family tastes. There are plenty of families who consider the deployment the best part of the deal. European countries, cool cities, interesting destinations and awesome per diems.

Some others would rather stay in Canada and not miss the summer after a long hard winter. I can understand both perspectives. Depends on what works for your family.

Senior would be back to the first class. 6 years will get you mostly what you want.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:34 pm

Echoing what Handover said, I think you need to be a 3rd year or more senior F/O to have stayed home this year by choice. If you are more junior, you had no choice but to go over. There were some extenuating circumstances this year that necessitated drafting people to go overseas.

This is the first time people have been drafted in a long time. And as I said, last year I bid to deploy, but my seniority didn’t hold it and I had to stay in Canada all summer.

The deployments are a highlight for many people every year. I’m bringing my wife and two young kids over and I’ll be provided with a 2 bedroom apartment and a rental car at the company’s expense. They’ll come home early (again, at the company’s expense) to start the school year in September and I’ll finish off the rest of my tour by early October.

And there a lot of long term pilots here. Lots still left from when the company started over a decade ago, and lots of junior pilots who have no intention to leave for AC/WJ or overseas.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by ant_321 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:13 pm

Another deployment lover here. I was pretty disappointed when I couldn’t hold anything last summer. (My wife was pissed). There were people drafted this year. The last time that happened was 2013. With that said, if you aren’t ok with deploying then don’t come to SWG. Most people find the newbies (who took the job knowing about the deployments) complaining about having to deploy VERY irritating.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by anchovy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:34 pm

Wow! Thanks for the quick reply!

Yeah it seems that opinions are mostly positive on this forum vs places like glass door etc. which have very negative write-ups about the company.

I'm not opposed to deploying at all, would likely enjoy it actually for many reasons. The deployments also seem like nice places to be mostly.

A couple of more questions. How does the company deal with health care issues while you are overseas? Do they pay into a program for you and your families?

Also... I've heard that you kind of have to know somebody on the inside to get in. Is the internal reference part true? This is likely the only company I don't know anyone in.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:38 pm

anchovy wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:34 pm
Wow! Thanks for the quick reply!

Yeah it seems that opinions are mostly positive on this forum vs places like glass door etc. which have very negative write-ups about the company.

I'm not opposed to deploying at all, would likely enjoy it actually for many reasons. The deployments also seem like nice places to be mostly.

A couple of more questions. How does the company deal with health care issues while you are overseas? Do they pay into a program for you and your families?

Also... I've heard that you kind of have to know somebody on the inside to get in. Is the internal reference part true? This is likely the only company I don't know anyone in.
You get full health insurance for you and family overseas. No concerns there.

Some people have got in without references, but Sunwing as a whole values an internal contact.

Don't know why Glassdoor is giving bad reviews. Mostly everyone I know loves the company. I'm not easy to please but I'd take this over AC any day for the lifestyle and pay available
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:22 pm

A lot of the reviews on Glassdoor are seasonal Flight Attendants who get laid off every summer, which can make even a good company feel not as good as it is.

And don’t get me wrong, there are things I’d change at SWG, but it’s still a good place to hang your hat. (Those who work for SWG swill get the inside joke there).
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by anchovy » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:04 am

Thanks for that info!

Too bad about the internal referral but maybe I can be one of the few they consider without. Can't make up knowing someone.

Always open to getting to know new people of the Sunwing pilot type though. Drinks on me? :wink:
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by daedalusx » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:13 pm

Sunwing is actually an amazing place for pilots but yeah for flight attendants it’s certainly debatable .... being seasonal work doesn’t help but you also get to deal with the semi-retired entitled BOOMERS who paid 500$ Return for a Cancun 10 days cruise and complain that the Brut wine offered on the plane isn’t Don Perignon 1998 reserve and then you also get the young belligerent crowd getting piss drunk ahead of their all inclusive DR spring break electric boogaloo - On top of it, they don’t really get flight benefits like WJ/AC/Express and not that much layovers down south compared to Rouge or WJ.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by ant_321 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:34 pm

anchovy wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:04 am
Thanks for that info!

Too bad about the internal referral but maybe I can be one of the few they consider without. Can't make up knowing someone.

Always open to getting to know new people of the Sunwing pilot type though. Drinks on me? :wink:
Just book an all inclusive at one of the crew hotels and hang out in the lobby until you see a pilot with a goofy tie.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Blueontop » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:47 am

Can someone be kind enough to post the CBA? Much appreciated!
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Mart » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:58 am

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... ture=en-CA

ALL Canadian company CBA are publicly available on this Canadian Government website.
Most recent CBA could take couple of months to be posted but eventually they all end up in this library. 😉
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by mollok » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:14 am

I heard that ground school are delayed due to the 737 max's crews are re-dispatched on the others 737.. Someone can confirm?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by ant_321 » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:21 am

mollok wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:14 am
I heard that ground school are delayed due to the 737 max's crews are re-dispatched on the others 737.. Someone can confirm?
All pilots at Sunwing fly the -800 and Max.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:10 am

ant_321 wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:21 am
mollok wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:14 am
I heard that ground school are delayed due to the 737 max's crews are re-dispatched on the others 737.. Someone can confirm?
All pilots at Sunwing fly the -800 and Max.
So as ant alludes to. The answer to your question is, no, the ground schools have not been delayed
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by mollok » Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:36 am

Thx
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by joyful » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:35 am

Still no call yet? Does anyone know how many new pilots are supposed to be on the June ground school
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Cavalier44 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:23 pm

Got a phone call today for an early May interview date. No internal reference, so there does appear to be hope for those without one!

If any current Sunwing pilots have any tips for the interview process that they’d be inclined to share via PM, it would be much appreciated.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by bythenumbers » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:38 pm

Wouldn’t mind a pm also from anyone in the know.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by FOD_Vacuum » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:20 pm

Cavalier, when did you apply and what’s your experience?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Cavalier44 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:31 am

FOD_Vacuum wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:20 pm
Cavalier, when did you apply and what’s your experience?
I applied for the first time in August 2018 but I didn’t receive a response. Reapplied around mid-March when the online hiring portal re-opened.

Sitting at ~5500 TT, ~1000 Jet PIC. The majority of the rest is 705 SIC, various types (Jet/Turboprop).

Hope that helps - cheers!
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by joyful » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:19 am

cavalier 44 : What kind of talk during the phone call ?

Thanks
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