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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by indieadventurer » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:28 pm

They’re referring to the MAX being back flying.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by GoHomeLeg » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:40 am

indieadventurer wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:28 pm
They’re referring to the MAX being back flying.
The company already made the decision to not use them during the winter season regardless of the approval status. But who knows maybe they will find random jobs for them or use them as sparse.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by boeingboy » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:06 pm

The company already made the decision to not use them during the winter season regardless of the approval status. But who knows maybe they will find random jobs for them or use them as sparse.
The second they are cleared to fly - they will be put into service.

They are not going to sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting for something to break down somewhere.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by co-joe » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:41 am

Here's my time line with the Sunwing process if it helps anyone.

Applied end of March
Interviewed in May
Successful interview email July
Sorry for the delay email later in July
Successful in reference checks August
Sorry for delay, all 2019 gs are full, we'll let you know if one opens up for you in the next 12 months email in November.

I have heard through work that pilots with airline jet experience already are the ones who've been getting the call in 2019. I took another job I'd interviewed for in the same time period on a similar type, and so far I'm doing great so no harm, but it's also still nice to be considered.

I found the process very open and everyone I talked to was warm and helpful. All my emails were replied to quickly. Don't hesitate to reach out to them if you're in the same boat. Odds are the Max thing will open a tonne of spots when it flies again.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by NG737 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:36 am

Same here mate-
Applied April
Interviewed July
references were called August
2 more replies to my e mail about trying to finalize the 2019 GS
Email received in Nov saying GS is full , but will find a match in the very near future ( positive e mail )

So to those who did not get a call for 2019 GS including myself, hope is there, I believe it's just a matter of time, maybe Max GS next? who knows lets see how it goes..
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by plausiblyannonymous » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:26 am

boeingboy wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:06 pm
The company already made the decision to not use them during the winter season regardless of the approval status. But who knows maybe they will find random jobs for them or use them as sparse.
The second they are cleared to fly - they will be put into service.

They are not going to sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting for something to break down somewhere.
Yes and no.

Having worked at Sunwing, I can tell you what is happening.

The planning department at Sunwing is planning for the MAXs to be offline. If and when they become available, they will be interspersed into the schedule without any actual scheduling changes made. As Sunwing does "power by the hour" leases in the winter, it will be those aircraft that are made to sit. Keep in mind, the power by the hour aircraft do have a minimum amount of hours in the contract, so it's not like they'll sit idle for the entire winter.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by gonnabeapilot » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:06 pm

Latest info from management roadshows is that the company is planning on hiring 70 people in 2020 with groundschools beginning again in the spring.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by boeingboy » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:05 am

Yes and no.

Having worked at Sunwing, I can tell you what is happening.

The planning department at Sunwing is planning for the MAXs to be offline. If and when they become available, they will be interspersed into the schedule without any actual scheduling changes made. As Sunwing does "power by the hour" leases in the winter, it will be those aircraft that are made to sit. Keep in mind, the power by the hour aircraft do have a minimum amount of hours in the contract, so it's not like they'll sit idle for the entire winter.
Mostly true....After they return to service they will spend a month or two in YYZ on shakedown flights...but then they are off to the west. All MAX's are going to be based in the west with no more NG's. Eventually the entire fleet will be replaced at which point they will slowly start showing up out east. But that wont happen for a while.

If they are cleared in Jan - Then they should start flying regular runs in the west in late winter.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by circle2land » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:31 pm

With regards to the MAXs for Sunwing..are they being brought in as replacements or for growth? both?
Interview coming in December...
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:53 am

circle2land wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:31 pm
With regards to the MAXs for Sunwing..are they being brought in as replacements or for growth? both?
Interview coming in December...
Bit of both. As mentioned above the entire fleet will someday be replaced by Max's. Good luck on the interview. Best place I have ever worked for lifestyle.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Tap » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:30 am

Handover wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:53 am
circle2land wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:31 pm
With regards to the MAXs for Sunwing..are they being brought in as replacements or for growth? both?
Interview coming in December...
Bit of both. As mentioned above the entire fleet will someday be replaced by Max's. Good luck on the interview. Best place I have ever worked for lifestyle.
Would you think swg is better then AC?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by daedalusx » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:19 pm

Tap wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:30 am
Handover wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:53 am
circle2land wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:31 pm
With regards to the MAXs for Sunwing..are they being brought in as replacements or for growth? both?
Interview coming in December...
Bit of both. As mentioned above the entire fleet will someday be replaced by Max's. Good luck on the interview. Best place I have ever worked for lifestyle.
Would you think swg is better then AC?
It depends. With a bit of seniority and depending of your family lifestyle it can certainly be as good or better than AC for a while, but its a totally different kind of operation. AC certainly has better long term pay and flight benefits (them B1 passes). But if you're coming back from overseas and looking for a quick upgrade and have a wife who doesn't mind a trip to europe every once in a while, the lifestyle of bidding productive YUL/YYZ turns can't be beat. Same timezone, sleep in your own bed, work 10-12 days a month.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by NG737 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:33 pm

Anyone has any idea when the next GS would start? perhaps Jan of Feb? I know that the 2019 GS's are all filled up.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by circle2land » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:21 pm

daedalusx wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:19 pm
Tap wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:30 am
Handover wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:53 am


Bit of both. As mentioned above the entire fleet will someday be replaced by Max's. Good luck on the interview. Best place I have ever worked for lifestyle.
Would you think swg is better then AC?
It depends. With a bit of seniority and depending of your family lifestyle it can certainly be as good or better than AC for a while, but its a totally different kind of operation. AC certainly has better long term pay and flight benefits (them B1 passes). But if you're coming back from overseas and looking for a quick upgrade and have a wife who doesn't mind a trip to europe every once in a while, the lifestyle of bidding productive YUL/YYZ turns can't be beat. Same timezone, sleep in your own bed, work 10-12 days a month.
Thanks for the info! I am at a pretty good company right now, but any future career growth (ie: upgrades) is likely minimum 5 years away (after currently being FO on the airplane 3 years). What are upgrade times like these days at Sunwing?
Anyone I know that works there as a pilot has mostly great things to say about it.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by daedalusx » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:25 pm

circle2land wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:21 pm
daedalusx wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:19 pm
Tap wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:30 am


Would you think swg is better then AC?
It depends. With a bit of seniority and depending of your family lifestyle it can certainly be as good or better than AC for a while, but its a totally different kind of operation. AC certainly has better long term pay and flight benefits (them B1 passes). But if you're coming back from overseas and looking for a quick upgrade and have a wife who doesn't mind a trip to europe every once in a while, the lifestyle of bidding productive YUL/YYZ turns can't be beat. Same timezone, sleep in your own bed, work 10-12 days a month.
Thanks for the info! I am at a pretty good company right now, but any future career growth (ie: upgrades) is likely minimum 5 years away (after currently being FO on the airplane 3 years). What are upgrade times like these days at Sunwing?
Anyone I know that works there as a pilot has mostly great things to say about it.
Shoot me a PM.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

Post by Handover » Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:47 am

Tap wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:30 am
Would you think swg is better then AC?
For me, absolutely. I'm come from overseas, done the wide body thing, done the mainline thing, now it's just about the lifestyle. I get to deploy to Europe, and internally in Canada, spend a ton of time at home with my young family. I couldn't ask for more (except pay, but that is everywhere here). I doubt any other company here could give this kind of lifestyle, except if you are an AC Max pilot.
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