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 Post subject: What is the WAWCON?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:47 pm 
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Hiring is like we have never seen before so trying to make the best decision has to involve some research...

What is the deal for a first year FO? Salary, roster, upgrade time and requirements.

Thanks



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 Post subject: Re: What is the WOWCON?
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WAWCON!?

Also, realistically, what is Transat's future likely to bring?



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Boreas wrote:
WAWCON!?

Also, realistically, what is Transat's future likely to bring?


Haha, my bad! WAWCON. I don't know much so you tell me.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:29 am 
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Boreas wrote:
WAWCON!?

Also, realistically, what is Transat's future likely to bring?


Many people who work at Rouge have informed me that a certain management person at AC has no qualms to admitting during meetings with pilots that Rouge's Raison d'être is putting Transat out of business.

People should not hold their breath waiting for that to happen.

Although true that we are seeing more and more Rouge aircraft parked next to us in places where Air Canada had never gone, it's just good competition. All captains with thousands of hours of wide body experience are constantly solicited by foreign carriers with offers of several times our present net pay, but virtually no one is leaving. That speaks for itself.


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Disregard.


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So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.


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annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees



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RRJetPilot wrote:
annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees


Thank you RRJetPilot,

What is the upgrade policy and time frame in YYZ?

Thanks,



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flythatwing wrote:
RRJetPilot wrote:
annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees


Thank you RRJetPilot,

What is the upgrade policy and time frame in YYZ?

Thanks,
Adam


Upgrade when your number comes up 3-4 years at the moment. YUL takes a lot longer.



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RRJetPilot wrote:
flythatwing wrote:
RRJetPilot wrote:
annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees


Thank you RRJetPilot,

What is the upgrade policy and time frame in YYZ?

Thanks,
Adam


Upgrade when your number comes up 3-4 years at the moment. YUL takes a lot longer.


Yeah I forget they are ALPA. Great, thanks again!



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 Post subject: Re: What is the WAWCON?
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flythatwing wrote:
So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.


All union contracts in Canada are public and posted

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... ture=en-CA


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 Post subject: Re: What is the WAWCON?
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Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
flythatwing wrote:
So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.


All union contracts in Canada are public and posted

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... ture=en-CA


Merci Gilles des infos! J'ai quelques amis qui sont rentré chez Transat, bien fière pour eux :)

Bonne journée.



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 Post subject: Re: What is the WAWCON?
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Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
flythatwing wrote:
So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.


All union contracts in Canada are public and posted

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... ture=en-CA


Thank you Gilles, I actually searched that site over and over again but couldn't find the new contract. Only the previous one.



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flythatwing wrote:
Thank you Gilles, I actually searched that site over and over again but couldn't find the new contract. Only the previous one.


It's there all right, the 2015 one. So are the contracts of all the other Canadian airlines that have Unions......


http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/recherche-search/nego/index.aspx?GoCTemplateCulture=en-CA&p50=1&p3=500&p4=10&s5=1&s6=1&p0=1025007&p2=0&p5=0&p6=0&p1=&p7=&p8=&d3=&d4=&d5=&d6=&d1=&d2=&p28=&p29=&p25=&p34=


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 Post subject: Re: What is the WAWCON?
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Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
flythatwing wrote:
Thank you Gilles, I actually searched that site over and over again but couldn't find the new contract. Only the previous one.


It's there all right, the 2015 one. So are the contracts of all the other Canadian airlines that have Unions......




http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/recherche-search/nego/index.aspx?GoCTemplateCulture=en-CA&p50=1&p3=500&p4=10&s5=1&s6=1&p0=1025007&p2=0&p5=0&p6=0&p1=&p7=&p8=&d3=&d4=&d5=&d6=&d1=&d2=&p28=&p29=&p25=&p34=



Right on. Much appreciated!



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