Quarantine will kill airlines and tourism

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Quarantine will kill airlines and tourism

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52774854
People arriving in the UK must self-isolate for 14 days from 8 June to help slow the spread of coronavirus, the government has said.
Measures such as these will prevent leisure and business travel. Only people travelling to stay for good are likely to travel under such restrictions.

I very seriously doubt that Air Transat Would resume flights to the UK while such restriction are in place. Not to mention that it will kill the British tourism industry.
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The same restriction exists for those coming into Canada as well. Not likely to see the german tourists arriving to spend 14 days in isolation before they jump in that rental motorhome and head off to Jasper from Vancouver.

The entire tourism industry is pivoting to try attract locals for the 'staycation'. Wife and i have discussed this on numerous occaisions. The German tourists will not be arriving to fill the roads with those rental motor homes. BC Parks are only open to residents this summer. If we ever wanted to tour our back yard without hordes of tourists, this will be the summer to do it. The real question left, do we take the motorhome or do we take the car and stay in hotels ? The hotels and restaurants need our business badly this year, so we are hedging towards taking the car.

And therein lies the crux for airlines. I dont see the likes of Transat or Sunwing making the pivot to run Vancouver to Jasper this year, but, that's where a lot of the local travel dollars are headed over the next 4 to 6 months.
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Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 9:39 pm
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52774854
People arriving in the UK must self-isolate for 14 days from 8 June to help slow the spread of coronavirus, the government has said.
Measures such as these will prevent leisure and business travel. Only people travelling to stay for good are likely to travel under such restrictions.

I very seriously doubt that Air Transat Would resume flights to the UK while such restriction are in place. Not to mention that it will kill the British tourism industry.
Theresa Tam has also made comments that quarantine will remain part of Canada’s Covid strategy going forward. So you go to Mexico for two weeks? Two more weeks in quarantine when you return.

You go to a place like the UK. Two weeks of quarantine when you arrive there. Two weeks when you return.

The US will probably follow suit. Would you let Canadians not have to quarantine in the US but Americans have to quarantine when they arrive here?

No one is going on vacation outside our boarders with rules in place like this. No one is travelling for business unless they absolutely must.

There is a high probability, even though no one is really saying it yet, that this winter is as much a write off as this summer.
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It's not just that. Let's say you do end up at a travel destination. Then your hotel might not serve breakfast, the grocery stores might have reduced hours (WHY? How does that help??), ubers might not be driving, restaurants offering take out only (if they are open at all), ... It doesn't really make for a pleasant travel experience.
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International flight crews are already getting a taste of what is like to be locked up in a hotel (and in some cases a hotel room).

Not very appealing.
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Is the premise of this thread that Boris Johnson should abandon his plans to protect the health of the British people to suit the pockets of Canadian pilots? If so, that's ambitious even by AvCanada standards.
I very seriously doubt that Air Transat Would resume flights to the UK while such restriction are in place.
We made it through the blitz; I'm confident we'll survive without Air Transat.
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We made it through the blitz; I'm confident we'll survive without Air Transat.
There's a troll under that bridge!

I agree with Brian Lilley, it's time for Canada to get a second opinion.

"Tam and the Public Health Agency of Canada should have been preparing Canada for a pandemic but were focused on anything but. How else do you explain that the agency spent more than $5.6 million on climate change storytelling-type projects last year and only $3 million on funding the National Emergency Strategic Stockpile?"

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... bad-advice
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How is Dr. Tam responsible for a British requirement for quarantine, about which the original poster is complaining?
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The UK is only half the problem, I haven’t seen Canada lift the requirement.
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Dr. Tam should be fired - he's been too inconsistent.
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They should hire one of the laid off pilots from avcanada, they know everything. At least 1000 mpic though, and an aviation diploma, we're talking about people's lives here.


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'97 Tercel wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 10:13 pm
Dr. Tam should be fired - he's been too inconsistent.
I'm not sure your opinion of Dr. Tam counts for much if you haven't yet worked out she's a woman:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Tam

I do hope that if she has a son she calls him Tim.
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Localizer wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 8:38 pm
The UK is only half the problem, I haven’t seen Canada lift the requirement.
Canada implemented the measure at the height of the crisis and it was expected to be withdrawn. The UK announced it would be in force this summer. That is the difference.

Here is IATA's statement:

https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/pr/2020-05-13-03/

And Alexandre de Juniac"s statement :

https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/speec ... -05-13-01/
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They should hire one of the laid off pilots from avcanada, they know everything. At least 1000 mpic though, and an aviation diploma, we're talking about people's lives here.
Common sense and critical thinking don’t require a university education. (Or 1000 mpic)

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Localizer wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 7:17 am
They should hire one of the laid off pilots from avcanada, they know everything. At least 1000 mpic though, and an aviation diploma, we're talking about people's lives here.
Common sense and critical thinking don’t require a university education. (Or 1000 mpic)

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Terrific, I need 8 medicals done as soon as your office opens.
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Terrific, I need 8 medicals done as soon as your office opens.
Ok .. but I gotta warn you .. proctology is my specialty!

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Ask the Doctor to use two fingers .
That way you can get a second opinion , right away :)
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2R wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 8:11 am
Ask the Doctor to use two fingers .
That way you can get a second opinion , right away :)

Or....ask the Doctor while he is up in there, to check and see if he can find your dignity :-)
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... quarantine

This measure will push BA and possibly RyanAir and EazyJet over the edge. No airline can be expected to fly under such conditions and survive,
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Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:42 am
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... quarantine

This measure will push BA and possibly RyanAir and EazyJet over the edge. No airline can be expected to fly under such conditions and survive,
I doubt that you'll see eloquent elegies and profuse tears for Mo'L and Ryan Air...
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Kosiw wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 10:01 am
2R wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 8:11 am
Ask the Doctor to use two fingers .
That way you can get a second opinion , right away :)

Or....ask the Doctor while he is up in there, to check and see if he can find your dignity :-)
You know you are in trouble when ATC asks how many souls onboard , I was thinking did I lose mine ? or did it get worn away like my dignity with every load of pop n chips . Dignity what is that ? :)

Fortunately , I have only been asked the souls on board question three times . Well three times I can remember .
Looks like that rubber dog shit gig out of Hong Kong is the dream job now . Sorry for the top gun reference 🇹🇼
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More bad quarantine news from Canada this time.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/travel ... -1.5632625
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Starting to wonder which companies (both large and small) in Canada are going to fold by the fall :?:
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https://www.businesstraveller.com/busin ... quarantine

Is it possible for the public to see the scientific data used by the government to support the decision? It looks more and more an abuse to our human rights.

All airlines/tourism businesses and their employees should unite and sue the government.
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dhc# wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:01 pm
Starting to wonder which companies (both large and small) in Canada are going to fold by the fall :?:
I think it is a given without aid. JT must know this is the case, so I guess he is good with it.

Gilles,

Can I assume Transat will push its restart until winter season now?
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