Any updates on training?

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Re: Any updates on training?

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Braun wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:06 pm Did they specify if it was for IFR or FSS, or VFR?
ACC so IFR
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pupelarajaka wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:59 pm
Braun wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:06 pm Did they specify if it was for IFR or FSS, or VFR?
ACC so IFR
Yup, thanks. I work in the ACC. Apparently it is easier to get information on Avcanada than at Nav. Thanks!
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pupelarajaka wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:59 pm
Braun wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:06 pm Did they specify if it was for IFR or FSS, or VFR?
ACC so IFR
Yup, thanks. I work in the ACC. Apparently it is easier to get information on Avcanada than at Nav. Thanks!
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Re: Any updates on training?

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Braun wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:55 am
pupelarajaka wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:59 pm
Braun wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:06 pm Did they specify if it was for IFR or FSS, or VFR?
ACC so IFR
Yup, thanks.
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Re: Any updates on training?

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Braun wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:55 am
pupelarajaka wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:59 pm
Braun wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 1:06 pm Did they specify if it was for IFR or FSS, or VFR?
ACC so IFR
Yup, thanks. I work in the ACC. Apparently it is easier to get information on Avcanada than at Nav. Thanks!
Can anyone confirm if any of the trainees have been recalled? it seems odd Nav is sending out offers to candidates but trainees haven't been recalled yet
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aircanada333 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:19 am
Braun wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:55 am
pupelarajaka wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:59 pm

ACC so IFR
Yup, thanks. I work in the ACC. Apparently it is easier to get information on Avcanada than at Nav. Thanks!
Can anyone confirm if any of the trainees have been recalled? it seems odd Nav is sending out offers to candidates but trainees haven't been recalled yet
This is the info I was looking for more specifically. Was it an actual offer or just to see if the candidate was interested.
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Re: Any updates on training?

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aircanada333 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:19 am
Braun wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:55 am
pupelarajaka wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:59 pm

ACC so IFR
Yup, thanks. I work in the ACC. Apparently it is easier to get information on Avcanada than at Nav. Thanks!
Can anyone confirm if any of the trainees have been recalled? it seems odd Nav is sending out offers to candidates but trainees haven't been recalled yet
I am a former IFR trainee from the YVR region. I have not been recalled and neither have my former classmates. I cannot speak for people who were in Specialty or OJT though. No official word on courses running or start dates yet either. From what I've been reading/hearing unofficially it sounds like training is being rolled out in a regional manner so hopefully we will hear something soon.
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Re: Any updates on training?

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TheGooseIsLoose wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:20 am
aircanada333 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:19 am
Braun wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:55 am

Yup, thanks. I work in the ACC. Apparently it is easier to get information on Avcanada than at Nav. Thanks!
Can anyone confirm if any of the trainees have been recalled? it seems odd Nav is sending out offers to candidates but trainees haven't been recalled yet
I am a former IFR trainee from the YVR region. I have not been recalled and neither have my former classmates. I cannot speak for people who were in Specialty or OJT though. No official word on courses running or start dates yet either. From what I've been reading/hearing unofficially it sounds like training is being rolled out in a regional manner so hopefully we will hear something soon.
Thanks! Unfortunately every ACC/FIR seems to be running things very differently. Hard to follow.
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Nav told me they were hiring only for Montreal (which I assume has a smaller pool cause French). Each region is handling differently and they weren't looking to hire for another area right now.
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pupelarajaka wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:40 pm Nav told me they were hiring only for Montreal (which I assume has a smaller pool cause French). Each region is handling differently and they weren't looking to hire for another area right now.
I work in Montreal. I am pushing to get training started but have had no updates from Nav so I was asking because of that! Thanks.
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Braun wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:36 am
pupelarajaka wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:40 pm Nav told me they were hiring only for Montreal (which I assume has a smaller pool cause French). Each region is handling differently and they weren't looking to hire for another area right now.
I work in Montreal. I am pushing to get training started but have had no updates from Nav so I was asking because of that! Thanks.
Were there any trainees in Montreal when the layoffs happened? If they are sending out offers I'd assume they would have recalled the trainees as well
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aircanada333 wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:05 am
Braun wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:36 am
pupelarajaka wrote: Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:40 pm Nav told me they were hiring only for Montreal (which I assume has a smaller pool cause French). Each region is handling differently and they weren't looking to hire for another area right now.
I work in Montreal. I am pushing to get training started but have had no updates from Nav so I was asking because of that! Thanks.
Were there any trainees in Montreal when the layoffs happened? If they are sending out offers I'd assume they would have recalled the trainees as well
All trainees were terminated. None have returned yet. Your last statement is exactly the problem. I am trying to understand if they sent out actual offers to people or if they just contacted individuals to see if they were interested.
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I'm also in the YVR region and was training IFR in Speciality training.
All I've had was a survey come from Nav, asking if I was still interested.
Haven't heard anything since. :(
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Re: Any updates on training?

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Braun wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:36 am I work in Montreal. I am pushing to get training started but have had no updates from Nav so I was asking because of that! Thanks.
How's the staffing situation there? Short staffed?
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pupelarajaka wrote: Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:36 am
Braun wrote: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:36 am I work in Montreal. I am pushing to get training started but have had no updates from Nav so I was asking because of that! Thanks.
How's the staffing situation there? Short staffed?
Most units are short.
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Re: Any updates on training?

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YYZ VFR Generic Trainees were called back today. Course starts October 4th
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LSWDC wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:00 pm YYZ VFR Generic Trainees were called back today. Course starts October 4th
So, this is in-line with what others claimed. FSS first, VFR next, and finally IFR.
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Going to be a VFR Generic course starting in October in YWG as well.
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atcthrowawayyy wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:18 am
LSWDC wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:00 pm YYZ VFR Generic Trainees were called back today. Course starts October 4th
So, this is in-line with what others claimed. FSS first, VFR next, and finally IFR.
VFR was called back "officially" in the YVR region pretty much same time as FSS. Only...I was the only VFR -YVR trainee to be laid off last September. They didn't have much of a "list" for VFR trainees to call back for our region. As everyone else said, it depends on region and availability.
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Re: Any updates on training?

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VFRDreamer wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:00 pm
atcthrowawayyy wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:18 am
LSWDC wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:00 pm YYZ VFR Generic Trainees were called back today. Course starts October 4th
So, this is in-line with what others claimed. FSS first, VFR next, and finally IFR.
VFR was called back "officially" in the YVR region pretty much same time as FSS. Only...I was the only VFR -YVR trainee to be laid off last September. They didn't have much of a "list" for VFR trainees to call back for our region. As everyone else said, it depends on region and availability.
There were at least 3 more Generic VFR trainees in the YVR region who were laid off and haven't been called back. They were in a weird position where they were employees and doing some online self study but their official in-person course start date was supposed to be in October, a few weeks after termination.

Hopefully this means that they will get a call soon.
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