Ivermectin-Disinformation of the century

[goldeneagle]

You ignore that it's safe and established for human use in many ailments, parasites, viral infections, bacterial infections for 35 years.
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So are you misled on this? Or are you willfully ignorant?

Ivermectin is used to to treat Onchocerciasis, Strongyloidiasis, Ascariasis, Cutaneous Larva Migrans, Filariasis, Scabies, and Filariasis.

Spend a couple minutes on google and you will realize, all of these are parasitic, most brought on by some form of worm parasite. None are viral or bacterial.

For those that keep quoting studies, here is an interesting read

https://www.theguardian.com/science/202 ... l-concerns

Apparently the single largest study on the subject had the paper withdrawn because the data was essentially fabricated, yet it is continually referenced by those pushing the drug.

If you read farther, studies done in a petri dish show the virus has a low rate of survival exposed to Ivermectin in a petri dish, ie, when there is nothing else in the surroundings. Further studies done in people have had inconclusive results, ie, there was no statistically significant difference between the study groups given Ivermectin and those given a non active placebo after you remove the data from the fabricated study.

In some of the less developed tropical countries, small doses of Ivermectin are perscribed annually as a matter of course to deal with parasites present in the water supply and insect population. The key word there is 'small', for that application dose is on the order of 0.4 mg. The dose typically found in the vet supply stores is on the order of 10x that amount.

Widely used as a worm solution in the vet industry, a vet has to be conscious of the potential side effects. In horses they are expected to be minimal. With dogs as another example, there is potential for serious neurological side effects in dogs. To understand doseage, it's based on the weight of the animal. With horses and cattle, the danger of overdose is minimal, but that doesn't hold true when dealing with cats and dogs.

Have a good friend in the vet business, asked him about it. His response made me chuckle. 'The most serious side effect is neurological, so it doesn't really matter. Those wanting to take Ivermectin for covid are already brain damaged, a little more wont hurt.'

[photofly]

None of what you say will make any impression as side effects are only relevant when they're vaccine side effects, and fabricated evidence is only relevant when it's evidence about vaccines that's being fabricated by big pharma.

[Eric Janson]

I'm not sure why anyone would trust anything the Mainstream Media tells you. They've been caught multiple times and have zero credibility imho.




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[2R]

“ The Truth is so powerful it can be whispered “ John Knox

[montado]

As for the vaccine.

Looks very effective.

I see zero reason for any lockdown going forward. Might have to riot if we lockdown this fall. Basically I keep declaring the pandemic over but for some reason this is not acceptable yet. Your chance of hospitalization if you are vaccinated is drastically reduced.

I am sure people with vaccines are still testing positive for covid. Cases don't really matter, this thing will spread. But if we can stay out of hospitals, mission accomplished.

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[2R]

The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant. Miyamoto Musashi

[geodoc]

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[photofly]

Your chance of hospitalization if you are vaccinated is drastically reduced.

I am sure people with vaccines are still testing positive for covid. Cases don't really matter, this thing will spread. But if we can stay out of hospitals, mission accomplished.

Apparently we can’t stay out of hospitals, though. They’re filling up again, we hear. We have a duty to protect the unvaccinated even though they refuse to protect themselves.

[2R]

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 19364.html

The use of off label cheap drugs in India may have worked for a week or two , their rates are rising again .
Global rates in the global pandemic are still over 600,000 per day and rates rising in 55 countries .

We have miles to go before we sleep .

[montado]

Your chance of hospitalization if you are vaccinated is drastically reduced.

I am sure people with vaccines are still testing positive for covid. Cases don't really matter, this thing will spread. But if we can stay out of hospitals, mission accomplished.

Apparently we can’t stay out of hospitals, though. They’re filling up again, we hear. We have a duty to protect the unvaccinated even though they refuse to protect themselves.

Forsure. I think we are closer to the end than the beginning. Let this virus burn out as more are vaccinated and more natural immunity happens. Cases and deaths will never be zero but neither are other diseases.

This should be a good flu season. Lots of Rona to go around and build up immunity or die.

[altiplano]

I'm not sure why anyone would trust anything the Mainstream Media tells you. They've been caught multiple times and have zero credibility imho.




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Good post Eric.

You're absolutely right.

The narrative is being controlled and censorship is rampant.

People don't want to open their eyes and question anything and they shout down anyone challenging their dogma rather than engaging and looking at the other side of the issue

Conclusions:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

[photofly]

Conclusions:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

You missed this bit:

We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021... Meta-analyses were conducted .... Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants met review inclusion.

Therapeutic Advances:
Meta-analysis of 15 trials...

This paper isn't original research, it's research into research. It doesn't say anything about the validity of the trials whose data they used, and its conclusions are only valid if you trust all the trials on which it is based.

Thank you - but I'll wait.

This recent article in Nature magazine talks about some of the issues:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w

Although the jury is still out on ivermectin, many say the retraction speaks to the difficulty of assessing research during a pandemic. “I personally have lost all faith in the results of [ivermectin] trials published to date,” says Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, an epidemiologist at the University of Wollongong in Australia who helped Lawrence to analyse the Elgazzar paper. It’s not yet possible to assess whether ivermectin works against COVID-19 because the data currently available are not of sufficiently high quality, he says, adding that he is reading other ivermectin papers in his spare time, looking for signs of fraud or other problems.

[2R]

This data shows how Ivermectin knocked their COVID-19 cases and deaths - which we know were Delta Variant - down to almost zero within weeks. A population comparable to the US went from about 35,000 cases and 350 deaths per day to nearly ZERO within weeks of adding Ivermectin to their protocol.

By comparison, the United States is the lower graph. On August 5, here in the good ol’ USA, blessed with the glorious vaccines, we have 127,108 new cases per day and 574 new deaths.

Let us look at the August 5 numbers from Uttar Pradesh with 2/3 of our population. Uttar Pradesh, using Ivermectin, had a total of 26 new cases and exactly THREE deaths. The US without Ivermectin has precisely 4889 times as many daily cases and 191 times as many deaths as Uttar Pradesh with Ivermectin.

It is not even close. Countries do orders of magnitude better WITH Ivermectin. It might be comparable to the difference in travel between using an automobile versus a horse and buggy.

Uttar Pradesh on Ivermectin: Population 240 Million [4.9% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 26

COVID Daily Deaths: 3

The United States off Ivermectin: Population 331 Million [50.5% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 127,108

COVID Daily Deaths: 574

Let us look at other Ivermectin using areas of India with numbers from August 5, 2021, compiled by the JHU CSSE:

Delhi on Ivermectin: Population 31 Million [15% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 61

COVID Daily Deaths: 2

Uttarakhand on Ivermectin: Population 11.4 Million [15% fully vaccinated]

COVID Daily Cases: 24

COVID Daily Deaths: 0

Now let us look at an area of India that rejected Ivermectin.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 561235.ece

Tamil Nadu announced they would reject Ivermectin and instead follow the dubious USA-style guidance of using Remdesivir. Knowing this, you might expect their numbers to be closer to the US, with more cases and more deaths. You would be correct. Tamil Nadu went on to lead India in COVID-19 cases.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 21f9a.html

Tamil Nadu continues to suffer for its choice to reject Ivermectin. As a result, the Delta variant continues to ravage their citizens while it was virtually wiped out in the Ivermectin-using states. Likewise, in the United States, without Ivermectin, both the vaccinated and unvaccinated continue to spread the Delta variant like wildfire.

[TG]

One has to be pretty naive to believe any kind of health stats coming from India.

Time to quote myself as a bunch of nut jobs obviously or voluntary missed that:

There have been successful ivermectin covid trials.

A few months ago the anti Vax gang, at least in France, were all excited about "Hydroxychloroquine" as the miracle of all miracle pill to cure from Covid before even getting sick (preventive) It felt silently through the cracks as zero proof showed that it actually worked.

Now they all get hyper excited about "Ivermectin" Like Hydroxychloroquine, the efficacy of a drug mainly promoted by rightwing figures worldwide for treating Covid-19. Same story, different meme.
What makes it even more absurd is this willingness to take it with bare bone minimum research of its efficacy, while Vaccins are sitting next door with months of utilisation now.




Anything not to take a vaccine, you bunch make zero sense....

Ivermectin....
Same as last year bizarre polarizing debate on hydroxychloroquine.

[photofly]

This data shows how Ivermectin knocked their COVID-19 cases and deaths - which we know were Delta Variant - down to almost zero within weeks

It doesn't show anything of the sort, because you conveniently omit all the other anti COVID measures like strict lockdowns that Uttar Pradesh has been using since April.

It also doesn't take long to turn up reports of the unreliability of COVID figures coming from that state, as the previous poster mentions.

Ivermectin may or may not work; like everyone one else I hope it does, but it's appropriate to wait for reliable data, just like we did with the various vaccines.

[2R]

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 19364.html

Do yourself a favour and read the article . As for medical data coming from India . Try using Pink , Yellow , Green in a sentence .
India today has some of the Top Cardiologists and Surgeons in the world . North American Hospitals depend on foreign trained medical personnel .

[Hot Wings]

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion ... 19364.html

Do yourself a favour and read the article . As for medical data coming from India . Try using Pink , Yellow , Green in a sentence .
India today has some of the Top Cardiologists and Surgeons in the world . North American Hospitals depend on foreign trained medical personnel .

Sorry, But I, Probably Won’t , Listen to You.. . ., .

[deadbear]

https://www.onedaymd.com/2021/08/what-c ... n.html?m=1

Japan latest country to green light IVM. Approximately 1/3 of the world is using IVM for Covid. Canada is way behind the curve.

But hey let’s keep treating with Remdesivr

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 71206&_rdr

If you haven’t watch the video above I highly recommend it as it is eye opening.

[flyer 1492]

A friends parents in the USA came down with the Delta. They both are in their late 60's early 70's, with corrmoridities. They found a doctor that would prescribe Ivermectin. After 7 days for the wife and 10 days for the husband, they both were Covid free. A week later they had another PCR test, which came back negative.

[montado]

This data shows how Ivermectin knocked their COVID-19 cases and deaths - which we know were Delta Variant - down to almost zero within weeks

It doesn't show anything of the sort, because you conveniently omit all the other anti COVID measures like strict lockdowns that Uttar Pradesh has been using since April.

It also doesn't take long to turn up reports of the unreliability of COVID figures coming from that state, as the previous poster mentions.

Ivermectin may or may not work; like everyone one else I hope it does, but it's appropriate to wait for reliable data, just like we did with the various vaccines.

What are we waiting for. We have had 18 months. They have approved vaccines that did not exist at the beginning of the pandemic.

I also don't know if it works. But this is why I have said this could be the disinformation of the century. If ivermectin saves lives from death from covid and the big pharma movement is trying to prevent this from being used, this is huge. Once in a while conspiracy is truth. We should always question what's going on.