Will you be fully vaccinated by Nov 1st?
Will you be fully vaccinated by Nov 1st?
Just wondering how many pilots are willing to loose their job over the jab.
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I was fully vaxxed at the end of January. Couldn't get it in me quick enough. I felt like what I imagine heroine junkies feel like.
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No experimental jab for me!! Taking full, real early retirement, but living free in latin america!!
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I disagree with your opinion regarding the vaccine, but I admire that you are willing to accept the consequences for your decision.shinysideup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:38 pm No experimental jab for me!! Taking full, real early retirement, but living free in latin america!!
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Doesn’t sound like much of a consequence to me. Sounds like he’s got it figured out!imjustlurking wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:41 pmI disagree with your opinion regarding the vaccine, but I admire that you are willing to accept the consequences for your decision.shinysideup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:38 pm No experimental jab for me!! Taking full, real early retirement, but living free in latin america!!
Enjoy your retirement
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Remember, consequences aren't always negative. The word is too often interpreted as a negative word, but it is quite neutral in definition.PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:30 pmDoesn’t sound like much of a consequence to me. Sounds like he’s got it figured out!imjustlurking wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:41 pmI disagree with your opinion regarding the vaccine, but I admire that you are willing to accept the consequences for your decision.shinysideup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:38 pm No experimental jab for me!! Taking full, real early retirement, but living free in latin america!!
Enjoy your retirement
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I think the interesting thing we're seeing so far with this poll is that the pilot community pretty much matches the general public response to the vaccine in Canada. 80% vaccination rate. But given this mandate, a loss of 20% of the pilot workforce will be pretty dramatic during the pandemic recovery.
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ahhhh yes! It sure help with the (wrong) decision knowing that it will not put you in a dire financial situation.shinysideup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:38 pm No experimental jab for me!! Taking full, real early retirement, but living free in latin america!!
October 2021, it's only experimental in your head.
On a side note and speaking about those Air Canada pilots refusing to take the jabs, I'm wondering how many of them would not be affected financially by loosing their job.
Not all but probably a good chunk.
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How does someone else's financials concern you in the slightest? Who cares?TG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:12 pmahhhh yes! It sure help with the (wrong) decision knowing that it will not put you in a dire financial situation.shinysideup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:38 pm No experimental jab for me!! Taking full, real early retirement, but living free in latin america!!
October 2021, it's only experimental in your head.
On a side note and speaking about those Air Canada pilots refusing to take the jabs, I'm wondering how many of them would not be affected financially by loosing their job.
Not all but probably a good chunk.
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That is exactly the attitude I expect from someone who is against the vaccine. The common thread I see among your people is "who cares about anyone other than you?"PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:30 amHow does someone else's financials concern you in the slightest? Who cares?TG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:12 pmahhhh yes! It sure help with the (wrong) decision knowing that it will not put you in a dire financial situation.shinysideup wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:38 pm No experimental jab for me!! Taking full, real early retirement, but living free in latin america!!
October 2021, it's only experimental in your head.
On a side note and speaking about those Air Canada pilots refusing to take the jabs, I'm wondering how many of them would not be affected financially by loosing their job.
Not all but probably a good chunk.
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In the words of Steppenwolf: “You want to retire? Get out of the way!”
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I’m not against it at all. My entire family is double vaxxed. We did our part, I can’t control what other people do, so I don’t let it bother me. Like I said, we’ve had a wonderful last couple of years.imjustlurking wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:16 amThat is exactly the attitude I expect from someone who is against the vaccine. The common thread I see among your people is "who cares about anyone other than you?"PostmasterGeneral wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:30 amHow does someone else's financials concern you in the slightest? Who cares?TG wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:12 pm
ahhhh yes! It sure help with the (wrong) decision knowing that it will not put you in a dire financial situation.
October 2021, it's only experimental in your head.
On a side note and speaking about those Air Canada pilots refusing to take the jabs, I'm wondering how many of them would not be affected financially by loosing their job.
Not all but probably a good chunk.
You are dialed up to 11, man. Take a breath, realize you can only control so much, and do your part.
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No covid vaccine for me, a friend's brother had a pericarditis following his second shot, number 6 with an issue around us for the last few months, I really don't want to try this. Good luck to the vaccinated, I hope you will be safe (sincerely).
I won't work as a pilot anymore, unless this stupid rule goes away...
My wife has just been put on leave for not telling her boss her vaccine status (by the way, it's illegal to ask this, I cannot even ask our family doctor if she is vaccinated or not...), no more money going to our bank account, but there are plenty of jobs out there. We'll find something.
I won't work as a pilot anymore, unless this stupid rule goes away...
My wife has just been put on leave for not telling her boss her vaccine status (by the way, it's illegal to ask this, I cannot even ask our family doctor if she is vaccinated or not...), no more money going to our bank account, but there are plenty of jobs out there. We'll find something.
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You're more afraid of pericarditis, the temporary inflamation of the sac around your heart more than COVID-19, the disease that is leaving millions around the world with long lasting respiratory dysfunction?pecessix wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:16 pm No covid vaccine for me, a friend's brother had a pericarditis following his second shot, number 6 with an issue around us for the last few months, I really don't want to try this. Good luck to the vaccinated, I hope you will be safe (sincerely).
I won't work as a pilot anymore, unless this stupid rule goes away...
My wife has just been put on leave for not telling her boss her vaccine status (by the way, it's illegal to ask this, I cannot even ask our family doctor if she is vaccinated or not...), no more money going to our bank account, but there are plenty of jobs out there. We'll find something.
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They can ask if there is a government mandate. An employer has the duty to protect its business and employees so they can choose to terminate an employee who does not provide proof. That being said, the employee is entitled to severance through constructive dismissal.
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Discrimination laws are at the provincial level. Vaccination status is not covered in Ontario.broken_slinky wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:03 amThey can ask if there is a government mandate. An employer has the duty to protect its business and employees so they can choose to terminate an employee who does not provide proof. That being said, the employee is entitled to severance through constructive dismissal.
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And where does vaccination status fall into your lovely cut and paste?imjustlurking wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:14 amDiscrimination laws are at the provincial level. Vaccination status is not covered in Ontario.broken_slinky wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:03 amThey can ask if there is a government mandate. An employer has the duty to protect its business and employees so they can choose to terminate an employee who does not provide proof. That being said, the employee is entitled to severance through constructive dismissal.http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/policy-primer- ... n-policiesThis policy prohibits discrimination or harassment based on the following grounds, and any combination of these grounds:
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It doesn't. That was the point.broken_slinky wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:41 amAnd where does vaccination status fall into your lovely cut and paste?imjustlurking wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:14 amDiscrimination laws are at the provincial level. Vaccination status is not covered in Ontario.broken_slinky wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:03 am
They can ask if there is a government mandate. An employer has the duty to protect its business and employees so they can choose to terminate an employee who does not provide proof. That being said, the employee is entitled to severance through constructive dismissal.http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/policy-primer- ... n-policiesThis policy prohibits discrimination or harassment based on the following grounds, and any combination of these grounds:
Age
Creed (religion)
Sex (including pregnancy and breastfeeding)
Sexual orientation
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Bump to get more votes... hard to believe that almost 30% will be walking off the job in a few days, someone is going to be picking up some overtime.
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I think that many will grumble very loudly; when faced with the prospect of unemployment, they'll roll up their sleeves..
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