Bede wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:31 am
Just did an overhaul on an O-200 with a reputable shop. It cost me $27000. That included a minor crank flange repair ($1000), 4 cylinders, 2 mags, removal, freight, reinstall, taxes. It adds up.
No disagreement here. My parents paid close to that overhauling the O-200 in their 150 as well. But that was an engine that was not only well beyond the calendar time, but also near (or maybe just over, I forget now) TBO as well. When I suggested there are 150's out there with low time engines, photofly said an overhaul would be necessary for calendar time expiry on the engine. Fine. But overhauling a low time O-200 that was "just overhauled" 300-400 hours ago probably won't be as expensive as overhauling a run-out engine.
rookiepilot wrote:So a quality AME can't make good money for their time and expertise, only "you"can?
Not my logic at all, but thanks for playing. I'm saying the AME will have less work to do on a relatively new engine than he/she will on a completely used up engine. Should the AME charge the same amount of money regardless of how much work there is to do?
photofly wrote:Chasing the cheapest price, in anything, is rarely wise. I want the person overhauling my engine to be well paid; I want the person who took the trouble to set up an engine overhaul shop, to be well paid; I want my AME to be well paid. I recognize they do important work for me and I don't see that nickel-and-diming them is right.
I agree, chasing the cheapest price isn't wise. But at the same time, paying more than you need to just increases your costs, those costs get passed on to the students, and you're back to the question of why flight training is so expensive. Nowhere did I suggest nickel-and-diming an AME... I suggested that $70k to take a flying, AME-serviced Cessna 150 and turn it into a flight school airplane was excessive.
REGARDLESS, $30K for a used 150, $30K for an engine overhaul, and you're still half the cost you quoted for a 172, and you have an airplane with lower hourly costs as well. So why is it necessary to use 172's to train people to fly?